Stern Des Südens Achiement (HRE) Question

[Orxan]

Hello Everyone,
As the title says, I am going for Stern Des Sudens, Forming Bavaria as Munchen and having Bremen Vassal own Werder. Currently having a very succesfull run with owning HRE revoked priviliges at 1650 + Commonwealth PU,alongside earlier integrated The palatinate,Austria and hungary PU's. My question is, I want to Renovetii Imperii - Annex all HRE into one united nation to become more stronger. Will I be able to Release myself as Bavaria for the achivement also Bremen as well?

[Marquoz]

I doubt it very much. You have to form Bavaria starting as München for the achievement. Releasing them won't work. And why would you want to take that course anyway? Bremen wouldn't be your vassal, so you'd somehow have to conquer them all over again with a united HRE in the way. Just do it the normal way--give Bremen provinces along the west coasts of Europe and Africa, round the Cape to the Horn, and get the achievement.

[Orxan]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I doubt it very much. You have to form Bavaria starting as München for the achievement. Releasing them won't work. And why would you want to take that course anyway? Bremen wouldn't be your vassal, so you'd somehow have to conquer them over with a united HRE in the way. Just do it the normal way--give Bremen provinces along the west coasts of Europe and Africa, round the Cape to the Horn, and get the achievement.

I am also trying to playing my game and enjoy it in meantime, not only finishing the achivement. I guess not possible with this achivement

[bri]

Originally posted by Orxan Nəzirov:

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I doubt it very much. You have to form Bavaria starting as München for the achievement. Releasing them won't work. And why would you want to take that course anyway? Bremen wouldn't be your vassal, so you'd somehow have to conquer them over with a united HRE in the way. Just do it the normal way--give Bremen provinces along the west coasts of Europe and Africa, round the Cape to the Horn, and get the achievement.

I am also trying to playing my game and enjoy it in meantime, not only finishing the achivement. I guess not possible with this achivement

That's actually true of quite a few achievements, if you want the achievement you suffer through some periods of lousy gameplay experience.

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Orxan Nəzirov:

Will I be able to Release myself as Bavaria for the achivement also Bremen as well?

If you would be able to release yourself as Bavaria, you could still get the achievement, because the achievement doesn't have the condition that you are not allowed to play as a released vassal(as usual the steam description which says "form bavaria" is inaccurate). But if you form the HRE as bavaria, all bavarian cores would become hre cores, so there won't be any bavarian cores left to release them.
But if one of the bavarian minors still has cores, you could create Bavarian cores again by releasing the bavarian minor as a vassal (after you formed the hre) and giving them the provinces to form Bavaria and granting them independence and annexing them after they formed Bavaria.
But as Marquoz said, it would be much easier to do the achievement while you have the vassal swarm. You can form the HRE afterwards

[Orxan]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Orxan Nəzirov:

Will I be able to Release myself as Bavaria for the achivement also Bremen as well?

If you would be able to release yourself as Bavaria, you could still get the achievement, because the achievement doesn't have the condition that you are not allowed to play as a released vassal(as usual the steam description which says "form bavaria" is inaccurate). But if you form the HRE as bavaria, all bavarian cores would become hre cores, so there won't be any bavarian cores left to release them.
But if one of the bavarian minors still has cores, you could create Bavarian cores again by releasing the bavarian minor as a vassal (after you formed the hre) and giving them the provinces to form Bavaria and granting them independence and annexing them after they formed Bavaria.
But as Marquoz said, it would be much easier to do the achievement while you have the vassal swarm. You can form the HRE afterwards

Yep İ will have to just do that.
I also wanted it for bigger Bavaria name and Map.