"Riga" vs. "The Hanse" ideas?

[TaKtLo$$]

i dont know what ideas and traditions i should choose. I started with Riga and can form "The Hanse" now :) Any pro and cons? thanks a lot for tips.

[RCMidas]

Flip a coin. Rigan ideas are better for fighting enemies and converting heretics. Hanseatic ideas are better for making lots of money. What do you want to prioritise?

[dbond1]

I like the Hansa idea set better, since if you're going this route you will be wanting to establish a trading empire, I expect. And the Hansa ideas are supercharged for trade. The 10% heavy ship combat, -10% idea cost and 10% good produced are all nice compliments.

On the flip side you lose a few land military bonuses, plus missionary strength and dip rep, and with Hansa ideas you only get 5% discipline. Since you probably plan to run tall and play peacefully (yes?) this may not be a problem. But if attacked you would possibly find your troops outclassed on the battlefield. Need allies, which should not be an issue (and a trade league). Or take a MIL group to fill in your weakness.

[TaKtLo$$]

thanks a lot, i think i go for Hansa ideas :)

[grognardgary]

And a lot of money transfers into a lot of other thing quite nicely like better advisors

[TaKtLo$$]

I lost all my Riga buffs when i form The Hanseatic... my capitol switch to lübeck, then my Riga Buffs are deactivated, because wrong capitol and not theocratie. so i switch may capitol back and to Theo , i got my Buffs back , but my Leage with 11 Member gone.... i was kicked out :( somethink i dont get

[dbond1]

Lubeck is a plutocracy yes. Did it not say this in the decision tool tip? I've never played as RIga, maybe I should as I like theocracies.

I'm just speculating since I've not taken your route... but isn't the idea to start over with a new Hanseatic league? Can you now recruit to your new league?

[RCMidas]

Save up reform progress and you can switch back to theocratic government. You'll still need to give up a LOT of territory to retain your Rigan mission rewards however - that is a nation that was built around playing extremely tall, and even the Hansa play relatively wide across the north of Germany.

[TaKtLo$$]

i understand :)

[sproutman]

if you are still playing riga how far through are your ideas??

[sproutman]

if they are not far through you would be better as hansa but if you invest a lot of time into riga then it is probably not worth waiting to get more ideas, just need a strong allies and lot of defensive capability