Surrender of Maine Event Trigger?

[LordofBargo]

Very confused. The event used to trigger within a year or two of the start, almost always. This was the case for several french campaigns I've played. The year is now 1455 in my current game and it still has not fired. Did they change this?

[Carolus Magnus]

Have you been at war between 1444 and 1455?
It won't fire if you're at war.

[Marquoz]

Nothing has changed. It still has a mean time to happen of 12 months. This means on average it will fire in one year. I'm currently running an Angevin campaign, and it went off like clockwork.

The trigger conditions are:

The country:

is England.
is not a subject.
is not allied with France.
is not at war with France.
does not have a truce with France.

Maine (177):
is owned by England or one of its subjects.

France:
exists.

is not a subject.
It is before 1450.

So as long as you haven't fought France, it will normally fire in about a year. HOWEVER, statistics are complex. A mean time to happen of one year means just that: on average, it will occur in a year. But sometimes it will happen faster and sometimes slower. If it happens too much slower, the event will never fire because it has to be "before 1450."

[LordofBargo]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

Nothing has changed. It still has a mean time to happen of 12 months. This means on average it will fire in one year. I'm currently running an Angevin campaign, and it went off like clockwork.

The trigger conditions are:

The country:

is England.
is not a subject.
is not allied with France.
is not at war with France.
does not have a truce with France.

Maine (177):
is owned by England or one of its subjects.

France:

exists.
is not a subject.
It is before 1450.

So as long as you haven't fought France, it will normally fire in about a year. HOWEVER, statistics are complex. A mean time to happen of one year means just that: on average, it will occur in a year. But sometimes it will happen faster and sometimes slower. If it happens too much slower, the event will never fire because it has to be "before 1450."

Really weird then, I'm playing France and it hasn't happened yet. I've not been at war with anybody. It's 1455.

[LordofBargo]

I wonder if it's something to do with the few graphics mods I'm using, but I wouldn't think any of them could cause that? They're all popular mods and other events (war of the roses) seem to be firing fine.

[Marquoz]

It's random chance. You got unlucky and it didn't fire. Now it never will, because you're in 1455.

If you want the event to happen, you'll need to restart.

[LordofBargo]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

It's random chance. You got unlucky and it didn't fire. Now it never will, because you're in 1455.

If you want the event to happen, you'll need to restart.

Gotcha, dang.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by TheMasterChief:

I'm using Graphical Improvements and the Great Exhibition. I wouldn't think either of those would do anything.

Mods can break anything, but I still say random chance is the most likely cause.

[bri]

England doesn't always choose the option that leads to war...

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by bri:

England doesn't always choose the option that leads to war...

Very true, but in the OP, TheMasterChief said the event never fired at all.

[LordofBargo]

Originally posted by bri:

England doesn't always choose the option that leads to war...

Yeah, it never fired period. That's why I was confused. I've played france several times and this has never happened. Cool though that it can not fire, more alt historical possibilities!