Would you ever use unconditional surrender?

[Guomindang]

It instantly occupies all of your provinces and gives the enemy 100% warscore. Wouldn't it be better to just sit around and wait, hoping to peace out at 90% warscore instead or something similar?

[Homer]

Rather negotiate peace earlier (if possible) if you see a war is going bad for you..

[Aaronthelemon]

Theres no good reason to give the enemy more warscore atleast in my opinion.

[Homer]

True
What I am trying to say is do not let it get to a postion where you are having to consider unconditional surrender. Rather get out early. Rebuild and take revenge.

[Aaronthelemon]

Originally posted by Homer:

True
What I am trying to say is do not let it get to a postion where you are having to consider unconditional surrender. Rather get out early. Rebuild and take revenge.

Exactly I'd rather lose 30% warscore then offer the enemy the chance to take 100%

[shoki]

Jeah i wouldn't use it in singleplayer either, but i think it's a good feature for multiplayer. I hope we can deactivate the button, because i only play singleplayer :3

[The Selfish Meme]

What are you talking about? Is this a new feature or just your idea?

[shoki]

Originally posted by The Selfish Meme:

What are you talking about? Is this a new feature or just your idea?

New feature of 1.16

[Guomindang]

Originally posted by The Selfish Meme:

What are you talking about? Is this a new feature or just your idea?

Comes with the patch on the 5th of April, along with Mare Nostrum

[The Selfish Meme]

Originally posted by Guomindang:

Originally posted by The Selfish Meme:

What are you talking about? Is this a new feature or just your idea?

Comes with the patch on the 5th of April, along with Mare Nostrum

Is there a full list of new features?

[Guomindang]

Originally posted by The Selfish Meme:

Originally posted by Guomindang:

Comes with the patch on the 5th of April, along with Mare Nostrum

Is there a full list of new features?

The patch notes aren't released yet, but you can find dev streams on youtube and dev diaries in the news section as well :3

[♠.brT]

yes i would.

If i see a war going bad i don't want to wait until the AI has everything that they want, that can take years and the AI doesn't get call for peace which sucks even more for the player.


Of course the ideal situation is never be in such a bad war but sometimes things are beyond your control.

[Waxen]

You can just open the negotiation window in "offer tribute" and click on "suggest offer". The AI will tell you what it wants.

[Gonio]

If you never lose war, you never have to use it. So thats what I gonna do. :) But if it's early decided might be bettter then just stacking up all kind of negative things, but losing is always a bad thing.

[dracos24]

Losing may always be a bad thing, but sometimes its inevitable.

Just because you can click Suggest Offer, doesn't mean the AI will accept it.

There's been a few times where I was losing the war either way, but I wanted to peace out i order to keep my troops & ducats intact, but the AI was unwilling to accept *any* peace offer I gave them until they were at 100% and completely broke my momentum.

90% of the time I'll exit to menu, but if I have a large enough empire, sometimes the expansive momentum I have going is more than I'll lose by a quick peace and 15 years to recover my losses.

*IF* I haven't spent the last 20 years being beaten down and need to replace every last one of my troops & manpower to do so.

[Valazzar]

I think all your armies are impossible to attack once you offer unconditional surrender? so basically it denies the enemy the very destructive option of ruining your military.