worth buying with the monthly subscription?

[The creator]

I heard good thing about this game,but knowing that theres a ♥♥♥♥-ton of dlc make me decided to buy the suscription

I want to know if is worth buying the subscription and the game

Mostly because im new in this type of game and i want to know if its worth it for a person new at this type of game

[RCMidas]

The subscription is objectively the best deal for all the content (whether it's mere tweaks to nations' missions and units, or significant changes to entire mechanics) until you hit a few thousand hours of playtime. Note that owing to the complexity of the game, you will probably still be learning about things several hundred hours into playing, so on that score, you will not be running out of playtime any time soon.

If you are new to this type of game though, it's a very good idea to take a look at some videos, streams, peruse the wiki and so forth for a few days/weeks before you jump into it. You don't want to drop too much money on something that will take a very long time to get to grips with through just playing if this preliminary research will show you that you aren't really going to enjoy it.

Yes, it's a good game in many ways, but it can get frustrating and is very involved, and you really ought to go in aware of this and prepared for it.

[The creator]

Thanks for the explanation,i will see some videos and see how engaging it is

Originally posted by RCMidas:

The subscription is objectively the best deal for all the content (whether it's mere tweaks to nations' missions and units, or significant changes to entire mechanics) until you hit a few thousand hours of playtime. Note that owing to the complexity of the game, you will probably still be learning about things several hundred hours into playing, so on that score, you will not be running out of playtime any time soon.

If you are new to this type of game though, it's a very good idea to take a look at some videos, streams, peruse the wiki and so forth for a few days/weeks before you jump into it. You don't want to drop too much money on something that will take a very long time to get to grips with through just playing if this preliminary research will show you that you aren't really going to enjoy it.

Yes, it's a good game in many ways, but it can get frustrating and is very involved, and you really ought to go in aware of this and prepared for it.

[Ljubasija]

if i subscribe and cancel right away so i could cancel the 1 month renewal,would i still get all dlcs for that month i just paid?

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Nats:

I personally do not think it is ever worth paying a subscription for one game.

I do. I've put almost 6000 hours into EU4. I've played it more than my second through fifth most-played games combined. And the value per entertainment dollar it has provided me is enormous.

If you're the sort of person who thinks a 30 hour game is too long, who bounces from one title to another, who has never gotten totally sucked into an MMO for more than a year, who doesn't obsess about learning all the in's and out's of a title you truly love, then yes, subscribing to any game is a mistake. But don't generalize what's right for you and say it's right for everyone. It isn't.

[RCMidas]

Well, technically he did preface that statement with "Personally I think" as opposed to a more assertive 'It is never'...

[Howard Roark]

If you don't want to go for the subscription (I personally prefer owning the content) keep an eye on Humble Bundle. They occasionally have EU4 + most of the DLCs available as a $20 bundle. No guarantee it'll happen again, but it is a possibility.

I'd also say you don't need the DLC. It gives more options in game, and most guides are written assuming you have the DLC, but it is perfectly fun without any DLC. Plus, having fewer options makes it easier to learn the game. I'd recommend playing a game without any DLC before you get the subscription (if you go that route).

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Ljubasija:

if i subscribe and cancel right away so i could cancel the 1 month renewal,would i still get all dlcs for that month i just paid?

yes

[Gnasty Gnome]

Yes DLC is subscription is vital. Before I became a baller I used it all the time! Good for flavor too!

[Square Box]

Originally posted by Ljubasija:

if i subscribe and cancel right away so i could cancel the 1 month renewal,would i still get all dlcs for that month i just paid?

It is my understanding that one can subscribe, and opt out of an automatic renewal.

I don't know how to do it though. Maybe ask around.

[Ljubasija]

Originally posted by Litigious1:

Originally posted by Ljubasija:

if i subscribe and cancel right away so i could cancel the 1 month renewal,would i still get all dlcs for that month i just paid?

It is my understanding that one can subscribe, and opt out of an automatic renewal.

I don't know how to do it though. Maybe ask around.

Steam account>manage subscriptions :)

[N311]

Game is prob better played with mods. There are so many broken things about the base game/exp.

One of the worst is that every nation in the world techs up at the same rate so in 1700 every nation will have the same tech.

I play meiou and taxes and its far more fun. Plus i think it only needs 1 or 2 of the dlc

[Nats]

Maybe limited dlc or a subscription is the way to go for a few months. My reason is because I have been playing this game for a few weeks. Most of the fun is trying to create a large self sufficient country out of a small province. You fight battles, get allies gradually expand until you are fairly sizable.

But then you get hit by several neighbours at once and you lose everything you had and you are back at square one. Its so frustrating. So at that point its either you start again from scratch with a new game, or you continue with the present game and try to build up again.

Its just a bit of a circular game and winning is not very easy even on normal difficulty. Once you get cut down to size it really puts you off playing again. In that case you dont want to have spent a fortune on the game if you are not the sort of person who will continue to play after such a setback.

I think you can only find this out by playing the game for around 40-50 hrs.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Nats:

But then you get hit by several neighbours at once and you lose everything you had and you are back at square one. Its so frustrating.

When you get better at the game, this won't happen. Your number one job as any nation is to assemble an alliance so strong that none of your potential enemies will ever dare to attack you. That means you make and break alliances all game as nations lose usefulness and become targets instead. But the key point is power: you want your web to terrify everyone else.

I literally can't remember the last time I heard the sound that means someone declared war on me. It's been years.

[Rialm]

Sure, I would highly advice to watch a bit or have an idea just to take advantage of that subscription but if you don't mind yeah sure go for it. And wait and hope for a bundle in humble bundle. EU4 is not like the other paradox's game, I will say you need all the dlcs specially because of the QOL that you get from diverse dlcs.

The game is really fun and it's not as complex as it seems, there are a bunch of buttons but if you understand the basics, it's quite stray forward.

I love the diplo in this game and the cycle between institution, ideas technology etc. And the Colonizing system making the WHOLE world connected is so good, despite being really simple. In CK3 you don't care what happens elsewhere, neither in Imperator, neither in Stellaris. In HOI4 you do but it's different. Have fun! Hope you get to enjoy it. I really doubt this game is going to die after EU5 even if EU5 ends up being really good, because it's going to be quite different if it's not going to be mana heavy. There is a reason why this games has a more consistent playerbase.

[Nats]

its the interplay between the various factors that make this game so good. The administrative, diplomatic and military points that can be used for many things such a research, developing provinces, getting generals, ideas. Its so frustrating trying to balance out all of these needs that makes it a good game. Still bloody annoying when you get attacked by several large neighbours though