Europa Universalis IV

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Draky Apr 22, 2023 @ 6:44am
Can you sort states by required governing capacity?
Or visualise it in any other way? Like with a map mode or something?
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Chad Apr 22, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
There isn't a direct way to see the usage of governing capacity in states as far as I know. You can sort total state development in the macro builder and see there if they are full states or not or use the map mode that differienciates full states and territories.

Other than that if we disregard capital state (it has -100%) and expand infrastructure the math is pretty simpe: Every 1 development in a full state adds 1 governing capacity. In trade companies you get a -50% reduction so it's 0.5 and in territories it's -75% so 0.25. The court houses give each province another -25% reduction, so territoreis are free/use no government capacity, Trade companies -75% and full cores -25%. It's upgrade the town hall gives -50% so every territory and trade comapny province is free. The state house gives a -15% reduciton and a flat -10 reduction in the province it got build and an additional -20% porvince cost reduction in the entire state it got build. So a full state with a town hall and a state house essentialy takes up as much as a territory and in everything else a town hall alone is enough.

Keep in mind that expanding infrastructure does give a flat 15 cost with the additional +10% governing capacity cost so a 15 development province is 33 a 30 deveopment with double infrastructure 66. If you are at the cap it's best to demote them since they take up so much gov cap cost and you probably won't develop them more anyway.
Last edited by Chad; Apr 22, 2023 @ 1:12pm
Draky Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by Chad:
There isn't a direct way to see the usage of governing capacity in states as far as I know. You can sort total state development in the macro builder and see there if they are full states or not or use the map mode that differienciates full states and territories.

Other than that if we disregard capital state (it has -100%) and expand infrastructure the math is pretty simpe: Every 1 development in a full state adds 1 governing capacity. In trade companies you get a -50% reduction so it's 0.5 and in territories it's -75% so 0.25. The court houses give each province another -25% reduction, so territoreis are free/use no government capacity, Trade companies -75% and full cores -25%. It's upgrade the town hall gives -50% so every territory and trade comapny province is free. The state house gives a -15% reduciton and a flat -10 reduction in the province it got build and an additional -20% porvince cost reduction in the entire state it got build. So a full state with a town hall and a state house essentialy takes up as much as a territory and in everything else a town hall alone is enough.

Keep in mind that expanding infrastructure does give a flat 15 cost with the additional +10% governing capacity cost so a 15 development province is 33 a 30 deveopment with double infrastructure 66. If you are at the cap it's best to demote them since they take up so much gov cap cost and you probably won't develop them more anyway.
I know about development, it's those exceptions like centralizing states and expanding infrastrcture that were the reason why i was looking for a mapmode or at least a ledger page

kinda weird that in this game where like half the mapmodes and even more ledger pages are effectively pointless/never used but the dont have 1 dedicated to the governing capacity
Kapika96 Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:50am 
You can see the top handful at least. On the Stability and Expansion tab if you hover the mouse over your number of states it will show you the highest developed ones with their governing cost in brackets.
Chad Apr 24, 2023 @ 9:53am 
there is one for expanded infrastructure since this update, so if you use that alot it helps from having to click every province until you find all of them
Last edited by Chad; Apr 24, 2023 @ 9:54am
Scr(A)tch Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:35am 
If they don't have Courthouse/Townhall/Statehouse the building menu will sort them ALMOST properly - and at least display their values.
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Date Posted: Apr 22, 2023 @ 6:44am
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