Hot to force enemy to cancel Supporting Independence to my vassal

[Aquaramses]

i am playing as england i vasalized scotland and released goscany i were annexing the gas but in %49 it stped because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ muscovy from the other side of europe is supporting their Independence so they have high liberty desire even if they rebel muscovy cant get here without lossing half of is armies (gascony is in france) i dont know how i can force muscovy to stop supporting Independence and i am litteraly stuck because of this (diplo slot and i still didint cancel the annexetin for 30 years now even tho its stuck)

[Omniconda]

if you fight moscovy they cant support your vassal, as your vassal will be at war vs them. and afterwards you will have a truce

[Marquoz]

Right. But you should never have gotten into this position in the first place. The moment you released Gascony, you should have royal married them and then used a diplomat to improve relations. Both of those would lower liberty desire. At the same time, you should have gotten stronger yourself by eating all of Ireland, Scotland, Brittany, and Burgundy's English Channel holdings (or by getting the Burgundian Inheritance).

Keep your vassals happy and/or intimidated by your might and they never go looking for help to break free.

[Aquaramses]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

Right. But you should never have gotten into this position in the first place. The moment you released Gascony, you should have royal married them and then used a diplomat to improve relations. Both of those would lower liberty desire. At the same time, you should have gotten stronger yourself by eating all of Ireland, Scotland, Brittany, and Burgundy's English Channel holdings (or by getting the Burgundian Inheritance).

Keep your vassals happy and/or intimidated by your might and they never go looking for help to break free.

i pu both france and casstile and i were trying to finish angevian questline at the point i am not master at the game.

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by Aquaramses:

i pu both france and casstile and i were trying to finish angevian questline at the point i am not master at the game.

A tip for next time then, generally you don't want to release vassals.

It can be very useful to release a vassal if they have a lot of cores that you don't own since you can use a reconquest war to get those cores back to them then annex them. But if you've already got a PU over France then you already own all of Gascony's cores. Releasing them and annexing them again is just losing monarch points with no benefit.

If you're playing as Castile then nabbing a Gascon province, releasing Gascony and then using re-conquest against France/England is a great idea. But for England/France you're better off not releasing them.