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Teutonic Order not switching to Prussia after Defeating Poland
Hello all, playing as the Teutonic Order. I just beat Poland, got the event to choose between the Holy Horde or Prussia, chose Prussia.... but no flag change, still the Teutonic Order, but I have some Prussian Missions now...
Am I doing something wrong? This worked a few weeks ago.
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kesa822000 Jul 6, 2023 @ 2:13am 
I can't answer your question , I have never played that faction.

But you seem to assume , like I used to assume , that the Tuetonic Order always became Prussia.

In my current game I vassalized the Tuetonic Order.

Later , I went to war with Poland and in the peace deal made Poland release Ducal Prussia.

Now I have BOTH Prussia and the Tuetonic Knights. Two different flags , two different state entities in two different colors.

Maybe the Tuetonic Knights will disband and be absorbed by Prussia tomorrow ? But that has now been several years ago , and they still exist as two separate vassals.

Maybe it's a bug in the last patch ?
RCMidas Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:59am 
Teutonic Knights don't become Prussia through their missions. They gain some Prussian missions whilst remaining the Teutonic Knights. You must still click an actual decision to become the country of Prussia. It is the releasable nation of Danzig through its events that can become Prussia WAY earlier than it has any right to.
Medicles Jul 6, 2023 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Teutonic Knights don't become Prussia through their missions. They gain some Prussian missions whilst remaining the Teutonic Knights. You must still click an actual decision to become the country of Prussia. It is the releasable nation of Danzig through its events that can become Prussia WAY earlier than it has any right to.

Did they change the event?

As far as i know, after you finish the "Defeat Poland" mission, you get an event with three choices. Either stay Teutonic Order for the Crusader Path, stay Teutonic Order but can become Prussia through the Holy Roman Diplomacy path or become a theocratic Prussia immediately when choosing the German Conquest path.
Last edited by Medicles; Jul 6, 2023 @ 7:57am
RCMidas Jul 6, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Did some quick tests and I was somewhat mistaken. Yes, you can technically become Prussia immediately, but the conditions are all over the place.

Essentially, defeating Poland lets you choose between going crusading or being more Prussian. If you choose the latter, you get the mission "The Order and the Empire" to decide how you'll deal with the HRE.

Completing that nets you the three-choice event, and you must choose to negotiate with the HRE or go on a German conquest to instantly become a theocratic Prussia. If you choose the third option, to avoid dealing with the HRE politics, you stay as you are (but can become Prussia later).

Post-LotN Teutonic Knights are...painfully convoluted. Not complicated. Convoluted.
red1 Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
Outlaw, I went back and reread your post. The option to convert to Prussia should be available via decisions once you reach gov 10. I just started a new TO game...will check.
Azunai Jul 6, 2023 @ 11:25pm 
I guess something in my TO run must have broken then. I went with the Prussian path and then german conquest on the next branching event but my country tag remained teutonic order.

I switched to prussia manually after admin 10 and switching to protestant. But that's nothing new that decision has been around long before the lions expansion.
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Date Posted: Jul 4, 2023 @ 4:51pm
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