Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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Playing as Oda for a japan run, open to ideas
currently own majority of japan, went offensive and picked exploration, curious of other opinion if colonising is worth it, i lost the spawn chance battle to the Europeans. what isolation level do people think is best, im currently thinking closed doors for the dev cost and global prosperity bonus.
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RCMidas Jun 29, 2023 @ 3:34pm 
Are you going to stay in Japan or expand into mainland Asia? If the latter, Admin, Diplo, and Influence ideas are objectively, mathematically, the best for efficient expansion. If you want to keep playing the colonial game, pick up Expansion as well and be ready to engage in very long and very many wars alike to claim the Americas from the natives and Europeans.
AC Denton Jun 29, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Honestly, unless exploration/expansion is going to be your first idea, colonisation is off the cards - it's already too late, the Europeans will be way ahead of you and as soon as you cross paths, they will hate you, have a CB on you and will attack you every chance they get. You want to colonise as soon as possible.

Colonial strategies for Japan are to choose exploration and colonise the Americas quick. You want to take that west coast and mexico. Conquer those natives too.
Alternatively, choose expansion and colonise Oceania, getting Australia as a Colonial Nation quick and also making your way through Siberia.

You shouldn't need offensive to unite Japan, especially as Oda. If you do, you've went wrong somewhere - Oda is one of the easiest to unite Japan as.

Isolation should only ever be 0 or 1 at a push in my opinion. 2, 3 and 4 are not needed.
0 Is great for that +10% trade efficiency, especially as Japan has +10% goods produced.
0 is also great for the -5% technology cost, as Japan also has -5% tech cost, so that's -10%.
Then that +2 diplo rep is just constantly great for any nation no matter what.

Isolationism 1 is only good for the -5% idea cost, but tech is more important.
The institution spread is nice but not worth losing the effects of 0 for.

Isolationism 2 gives you -10% construction cost but... seriously, if you have that good trade from goods produced and isolationism 0, you should have more money than you know what to do with anyway, building isn't an issue. Especially when you'll be conquering China.

Isolationism 3 and 4 are just pointless. You mention the -10 development cost but developing is just a waste of points. If you really want to develop to get the institutions perhaps, then you should still have enough to do that normally, as you're saving points from that -10% tech costs from being Japan and having isolationism 0.

I have to conclude Isolationism 0 is objectively the best unless you're aiming for something very specific like "convert all of Asia to Shinto", where you may need Isolationism 3.

Regardless, you want to take China as soon as Ming implodes. Take all the coast first and work your way in.
xxTHExFEAREDx Jun 30, 2023 @ 8:49am 
Im went with offensive as im reinforcing the oda's idea set, the whole "Prussia of the east" vibe. i intend on keeping Oda's Ideas as they are better than japans i feel. im probably going to go kinda light on the coloial game, just nabbing the islands around me in the pacific and oceania. and then drop the exploration idea later on and grab something better.
xxTHExFEAREDx Jun 30, 2023 @ 8:57am 
i understand im not min maxing the best, as one would say. but im just doin a chill game, dont mind a little competition from the main colonisers. the advice for the isolation level is heplful, i really couldnt decide, they all have their perks
Narrowmind Jun 30, 2023 @ 9:51pm 
Don't worry, man, it's your game. Take it easy and enjoy yourself. That's all that matters.
xxTHExFEAREDx Jun 30, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by Ratlegion:
Don't worry, man, it's your game. Take it easy and enjoy yourself. That's all that matters.


Originally posted by Ratlegion:
Don't worry, man, it's your game. Take it easy and enjoy yourself. That's all that matters.
appreciate that, i have around 2000 hours in the game but still consider myself a little better than an average player, curious about what other people do in my scenario
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Date Posted: Jun 29, 2023 @ 1:29pm
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