Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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atm Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:13pm
Duke of Milan Never Dies
Across several playthroughs I have tried to get a personal union with Milan as various nations - he starts off at something like age 57 with no heir.
Curious to see what it would take to actuall get a union, I become friends and get a royal marriage, then I keep an eye on his heir status and reload if he gets an heir.

The dude is immortal. Seriously. In all the games I have tried this, he has died exactly 0 times, while my own monarchs probably died a total of 100 times (reloaded each time to make sure the marriage holds).

Is there something I don't understand going on here, because I cannot fathom why this now 70-something year old has still NEVER died once in the fifty or so versions of alternate history I have just loaded, compared to my own monarch dying over and over... and over. Do they have a preprogrammed death time? I know my monarch doesn't. I also checked wikipedia to see when Filippo Maria Visconti died in real life - and it was in 1447, about 20 years ago in my current game.
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⛧ Morslyte ⛧ Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:15pm 
What do you mean "he never dies"? He cannot be immortal, now can he? As for Milan, forget a PU, once he dies Milan becomes a republic.
atm Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:22pm 
Interesting - people have commented elsewhere that they have seen PUs with Milan before.

By 'never dies' I mean I have reloaded this game 50 times, and not once in all those alternate loads has he actually died. If there was a random chance of it happening at any moment you would think it would have happened in one of those 50 verisons of reality.
⛧ Morslyte ⛧ Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by atm:
Interesting - people have commented elsewhere that they have seen PUs with Milan before.

By 'never dies' I mean I have reloaded this game 50 times, and not once in all those alternate loads has he actually died. If there was a random chance of it happening at any moment you would think it would have happened in one of those 50 verisons of reality.

But how many years did you allow to pass? Have you played up to 1821? I doubt it.
atm Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:32pm 
Ah - well he's 71 now, and never died once over say 50 loads. (Whereas my own monarch has died like 20 times over than many loads - he also starts out quite old and I have reloaded each time he dies). Just sayin - either I am super unlucky or his death is at a set point and I haven't reached it yet.

I also looked up Milanese events, it appears their automatic transition to Ambrosian Republic is only allowed to fire before 1449 unless there is a mistake on the wiki page, so I am fortunately not in that boat.
⛧ Morslyte ⛧ Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by atm:
Ah - well he's 71 now, and never died once over say 50 loads. (Whereas my own monarch has died like 20 times over than many loads - he also starts out quite old and I have reloaded each time he dies). Just sayin - either I am super unlucky or his death is at a set point and I haven't reached it yet.

I also looked up Milanese events, it appears their automatic transition to Ambrosian Republic is only allowed to fire before 1449 unless there is a mistake on the wiki page, so I am fortunately not in that boat.

What does 50 loads matter, I asked how many years, not loads. I don't care how many loads you did, I asked how many years pass. If you play one year and then reload, he will likely NEVER die. Besides, what does it matter your own monarch dying? You can send another RM right off the bat.
atm Apr 12, 2016 @ 9:42pm 
Well actually if he has say a 5% chance to die each year, if I replay the same year 50 times I shoudl expect him to die in one of those replays. That is they way it seems to work with your own monarch - a chance to die each year, even if they aren't that old.

The year is 1463, he is 71 I think. He still hasn't died, but I'm still determined... I will outlast him.
AngryElephant Apr 12, 2016 @ 10:03pm 
I have seen something similar. I had a huge rebel stack I had no posibility of killing off that had a badass general. I had a general with siege of 3 so I kept taking the forts back from the rebels which kept the rebel territory at 0 posibility of being created. This lasted like 80-100 years and the rebel general NEVER F-ing died!
My generals will live for 50 years during peace time and always die of "natural causes" during the first part of a big war!
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