Europa Universalis IV

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. Apr 8, 2016 @ 6:07am
Why Turkish culture is in the levantine culture group?
Why Turkish culture is in the levantine culture group?Is there any sensible explanation for that?
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Lareal Apr 8, 2016 @ 6:48am 
+1
Insurgent Korrah Apr 8, 2016 @ 6:59am 
Deal with this kufr

Me and a turk were already complaining but without effect
. Apr 8, 2016 @ 7:07am 
What?
fatihkokturk1975 Apr 8, 2016 @ 10:23am 
interesting.........
Mikey Apr 8, 2016 @ 10:24am 
Didnt we have this discussion yesterday as well?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/236850/discussions/0/371918937287475384/

Yes we did indeed
Last edited by Mikey; Apr 8, 2016 @ 10:25am
Erei Apr 8, 2016 @ 10:37am 
Gameplay. Culture doesn't means much in the game, it's highly un-realistic. Tibethan being in the same group than khmer, basques being spanish, breton being french but not celts, and amusingly enough, Burundi being the same culture than Rwanda, 2 cultures known for their long time hatred and ethnic conflicts.
Turk being part of the Arab group and able to form Arabia doesn't makes sense at all, but it's only the last drop in the ocean, I think it's shorter to make a list of cultures groups that makes sense, than cultures that doesn't.
Last edited by Erei; Apr 8, 2016 @ 10:37am
. Apr 8, 2016 @ 11:00am 
Sorry didnt see the earlier post
bai Apr 8, 2016 @ 12:19pm 
I think it should different culture group as Anatolian.
Fellini_Fiend Apr 8, 2016 @ 12:23pm 
Also shouldn't Mamluks be somewhat related to the Ottomans though? From what I could gather on Wikipedia (yes, I know not totally reliable but still), the Mamluks rose through some kind of rebellion and were Turkic by descent. So shouldn't there be a Mamlukian culture or something and be in the same group as Turkish? But I agree, Turkish does not belong in that culture group and thus should not be able to form Arabia by default. This makes no sense. Honestly, a nation like Ottomans probably shouldn't be able to form anything but as it stands you can easily form Persia if you culture convert your land and culture shift. I'm not even totally for forming Roman Empire by converting to Christianity but it's something you CAN do.

Basically what I'm saying is that unless you're trying to form the Roman Empire, Ottomans, France, or the Holy Roman Empire shouldn't be able to form another country. Ottomans shouldn't be able to form ANYTHING. Just gets rid of some of the difficulty. Any European nation should be able to form the Roman Empire except for the Holy Roman Empire (meaning passing the final reform) and the Ottomans. I might even add Russia to that list since they considered Moscow to be the third Rome.
. Apr 8, 2016 @ 12:37pm 
The thing about Mamluks . The mamluk leaders at that age used to be Circassian cause they made a coup to overthrow to Turkish Sultan .(at least thats what my history teacher said to me )+ Mamluk Rulers didnt immigrate with lots of people they just made a coup with Turkish mercenaries. so being not related to Turkish culture is ok i guess
Fellini_Fiend Apr 8, 2016 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Niceedia:
The thing about Mamluks . The mamluk leaders at that age used to be Circassian cause they made a coup to overthrow to Turkish Sultan .(at least thats what my history teacher said to me )+ Mamluk Rulers didnt immigrate with lots of people they just made a coup with Turkish mercenaries. so being not related to Turkish culture is ok i guess

Alright cool. See THIS is a huge plus for me about this game. You learn a little bit of world history all the time.

Have any reasons to why Ottomans and Timurids are considered historical rivals? I was playing as Timurids once and saw that there was a historical rival penalty from the Ottomans towards me.
. Apr 8, 2016 @ 9:50pm 
Because Timur I pillaged entire anatolia and took prisoner Ottoman PadisahYıldırım Beyazıt (who have died in his captivity )and therefore started a civil war called Fetret devri (thats why ottomans have cores all over the anatolia) during his campaigns .
Fellini_Fiend Apr 8, 2016 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Niceedia:
Because Timur I pillaged entire anatolia and took prisoner Ottoman PadisahYıldırım Beyazıt (who have died in his captivity )and therefore started a civil war called Fetret devri (thats why ottomans have cores all over the anatolia) during his campaigns .

Alright awesome. Love me some history.
Xalehander Apr 9, 2016 @ 1:58am 
Well Finnish culture is now in the same group as Swedish and other Scandinavian cultures. In addition Karelian is now a russian culture and Estonian is in Baltic group, even though Finnish, Karelian and Estonian being in the same group would make a lot more sense even today.
Spacelorian Dec 10, 2016 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by via. bai:
I think it should different culture group as Anatolian.
Anatolian? No ... Turks are Altaic, like kazakhs, kyrgyzs, azerbaycan turks, mongols, koreans, japonics, ( finns, maygars), etc..
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