Europa Universalis IV

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civking Jun 22, 2016 @ 6:19pm
Why allies don’t call me to their wars?
I am playing as Lithuania and my allies Poland and Bohemia both went to war (separate wars) without calling me to war, and they got crushed. Why? Is something changed recently? I haven’t played this game much for last couple of months.

By the way, I wasn’t at any war when this happened.
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Nait Jun 22, 2016 @ 8:08pm 
just like in the childhood - friends go to the party and dont invite you
Ilsensine Jun 23, 2016 @ 12:39am 
If you didn't play since the cossacks update, now you need favors with someone to call them in your offensive wars. That might be why they didn't invite you.
FON Jun 23, 2016 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by civking:
I am playing as Lithuania and my allies Poland and Bohemia both went to war (separate wars) without calling me to war, and they got crushed. Why? Is something changed recently? I haven’t played this game much for last couple of months.

By the way, I wasn’t at any war when this happened.

ALso, AI probably thought the wars wouldn't interest you
Eldrin Jun 23, 2016 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by Ilsensine:
If you didn't play since the cossacks update, now you need favors with someone to call them in your offensive wars. That might be why they didn't invite you.

AI dont need favors.
Ilsensine Jun 23, 2016 @ 4:39am 
Originally posted by SwiftXShadow:
AI dont need favors.

Are you sure about that? I thought I've read somewhere that the AI also accumulate favors with the player and expect him to join in offensive wars when they have enough.
civking Jun 23, 2016 @ 8:19am 
Originally posted by Ilsensine:
If you didn't play since the cossacks update, now you need favors with someone to call them in your offensive wars. That might be why they didn't invite you.


It was not my offensive war. Poland went to war against Teutonic order and Bohemia inside HRE, and none of them called me to war. I feel something is changed in the game here, but I don’t know what that is.

I also noticed some other changes, since last time that I played. Like claims are getting expensive, and it is not as easy to fabricate them like before. Also, I noticed changes in war declaration window. I went to war with wrong causes belli two or three times yesterday (I went to war with humiliation instead of conquest). That was infuriating!!

I think paradox should stop changing ♥♥♥♥ for the sake of changing them, for crying out loud.
Last edited by civking; Jun 23, 2016 @ 8:19am
Ilsensine Jun 23, 2016 @ 9:02am 
Not sure anymore if the favors system comes into play for the AI but clearly your allies are less likely to call you in their offensive wars than they were in earlier versions of the game.

The rest, longer time for fabricating and the humiliation CB, are some of the usual complaints about the latest updates. Unfortunately you have to deal with these things if you want to play in 1.17 but if you really hate the changes and didn't buy the last two DLC yet, maybe you should go back to an earlier version.
Cortez Jun 23, 2016 @ 9:07am 
Maybe you had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of loans ?
civking Jun 23, 2016 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by Cortez:
Maybe you had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of loans ?

i don't remember exactly. I may have had one or two loans max. anyway, this could have been the reason. regardless, by not inviting me to thier wars, both Poland and Bohemia got rekt, and consequesntly i lost two effective allies.
Last edited by civking; Jun 23, 2016 @ 9:46am
civking Jun 23, 2016 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by Ilsensine:
Not sure anymore if the favors system comes into play for the AI but clearly your allies are less likely to call you in their offensive wars than they were in earlier versions of the game.

The rest, longer time for fabricating and the humiliation CB, are some of the usual complaints about the latest updates. Unfortunately you have to deal with these things if you want to play in 1.17 but if you really hate the changes and didn't buy the last two DLC yet, maybe you should go back to an earlier version.

i have all the dlcs. well, i guess i just have to accept all these sudden ♥♥♥♥♥♥ changes from paradox every now and then. sigh.....
Kenobi87 Jun 23, 2016 @ 10:10am 
there is an option somewhere to check "call in for offensive wars" to have the ai know you would join in offensive wars. also make sure you have provinces of interest in the nation who your ally is attackings territory sometimes seems to help
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Date Posted: Jun 22, 2016 @ 6:19pm
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