Europa Universalis IV

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MasterYi Aug 6, 2022 @ 2:33am
Colony Types
I haven’t played any Colonisation games since the Leviathan update.

Which Colony types do you guys use? Also, does it depend on the Colonial Region?

From what I see on the Wiki:

Private Enterprise Colony - Absolutely useless, how is it even gonna colonise and survive with -6 Tax Income? Buffs are too Naval focused. (When and where do you ever choose this type of Colony?)

Self-Governing Colony - Possibly good at the very start to get them going faster, also if you don’t care about them giving you extra Force Limit, but eventually should be changed into a Crown Colony? (Not sure if the 1000 fee is worth it).

Crown Colony - The best option imo, you don’t have the extra colonist from Self-Governing but +10 Global Settler Increase somewhat makes up for it and it gives you +30% Manpower and Land Force Limit.

Also, what “Modify Colony Relationship” do you guys use?
Only “Enlarge the Gold Fleet” and “Increase Religious Control” from Crown Colonies seem useful to me. But +1% Missionary Strength from the latter is useless for Colonial Nations since their Traditions give them no penalties from Heathen and Heretic provinces no?

Last Question: How does Native Federations work? It’s like the HRE now? Basically a massive web of alliances? What’s Tribal Land and how does it affect a Coloniser?
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grotaclas Aug 6, 2022 @ 2:43am 
The -6 tax income (and -3 force limit) is a modifier which all subjects get. I is not unique to private enterprises. It is a yearly modifier, so the monthly impact is only -0.5.
The +1% missionary strength unlocks an event which makes the AI start to convert a more or less random province. And AFAIK they usually let the missionary finish. The event has a low MTTH, but it can only happen if they don't already use one of their missionaries.
MasterYi Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:02am 
After I wiped off the Natives with “Attack Natives”, they managed to repopulate the land. Cuz Migration or Tribal Land or something?
Medicles Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by MasterYi:
After I wiped off the Natives with “Attack Natives”, they managed to repopulate the land. Cuz Migration or Tribal Land or something?

Sometimes you have to use that button several times to fully clear the province of natives. At least i have never experienced natives coming back after a full clear.
The main redeeming quality for the Private Enterprise colony designation is the "Encourage Cash Crops" upgrade you can give them, which doubles the chances of provinces they colonize generating a more valuable trade good. The full list is available on the wiki; it cannot make a province produce a trade good that it doesn't innately have any chance of containing (it can't make Spices spontaneously appear in Brazil), but out of what's available it increases the chances of almost every one of the "good" New World trade goods - except Cocoa, for some reason.
MasterYi Aug 7, 2022 @ 8:56pm 
Originally posted by Medicles:
Originally posted by MasterYi:
After I wiped off the Natives with “Attack Natives”, they managed to repopulate the land. Cuz Migration or Tribal Land or something?

Sometimes you have to use that button several times to fully clear the province of natives. At least i have never experienced natives coming back after a full clear.
Trust me, I cleared out the entire northeastern coast of Canada all in one go so I don’t have to worry about it later when I am able to colonise more. I clearly remember the population was 0 but now some provinces even have 1500.

The only explanation I can think of is Native Migration…..

(Also I fought a war against 40k natives only to realise I didn’t have coring range to take anything, just vassalised an OPM, had 8k die from naval attrition for nothing .-. Even if I hug the coasts of Iceland and Greenland)
grotaclas Aug 8, 2022 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by MasterYi:
After I wiped off the Natives with “Attack Natives”, they managed to repopulate the land. Cuz Migration or Tribal Land or something?
I think a province will get its original native size back if a tribe migrates out of it
bri Aug 8, 2022 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by grotaclas:
Originally posted by MasterYi:
After I wiped off the Natives with “Attack Natives”, they managed to repopulate the land. Cuz Migration or Tribal Land or something?
I think a province will get its original native size back if a tribe migrates out of it

This sounds right.

Personally, I use the private enterprise pretty much exclusively as the additional liberty desire is just not worth it when you have large CNs and mine regularly hit top 20 in the world for development if not top 10 even without the dev cost discount. The colony getting settler growth is a lot less useful than it having +goods produced for it and for me, it comes down to the extra money generated vs force limit, which is just a number anyway...
MasterYi Aug 10, 2022 @ 10:21am 
After you finish colonising a province it automatically becomes a Territorial Core without you needing to core it.

Also for a Colonial Nation to form you only need 5 Territorial Cores not 5 Cores.

Has it always been like this or is it a new feature of 1.33?
bri Aug 10, 2022 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by MasterYi:
After you finish colonising a province it automatically becomes a Territorial Core without you needing to core it.

Also for a Colonial Nation to form you only need 5 Territorial Cores not 5 Cores.

Has it always been like this or is it a new feature of 1.33?

As long as colonial nations have been in the game that is how they have functioned.
MasterYi Aug 13, 2022 @ 11:42am 
Question 1: You can now have multiple Lv3 Trade Centres in a trade node?

Question 2: You must have a Royal Marriage and take the -1 Stab Hit if you wanna Claim Throne and get a PU right?

Should I break Alliance with Spain ASAP and attack after 5 years? Or should I use them against Denmark and France first then break alliance? Whether Spain gets a Weak or Strong heir is completely up to RNG?

Question 3: I have the Trastamara Dynasty, Spain also has the Trastamara Dynasty but with no heir - Would “Introduce Heir” have any effect in this circumstance?
grotaclas Aug 13, 2022 @ 12:08pm 
1. you always could. You are just limited to one per merchant and one per area(aka state)
2.1 yes
2.2 decide for yourself what is better in your game
2.3 I don't think that anybody knows the formula for claim strength, but I think that a strong heir is more likely and if you play with leviathan, a weak heir will get a strong claim over time
3. there are no advantages, but there are effects(e.g. you would get 20 AE with all countries of the same religion)
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