Some questions regarding 100 years war for England and Burgundy inheritance

[AOE4 Pls Buff England]

After finishing (almost) a Byz campaign I wanna try out the Anglophile achievement. I restart for some times to get a good starting environment. Castle, Aragon and Burgundy are all friendly to me, therefore I won the 100 years war ezly.
But here comes 2 questions.
1. A tuber in the video in 1.30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzdRvy6AcA0&t=1s) only had 45 ae when PU France but I'm facing with 89 ae in the 100 years war, had anything changed regarding to this from 1.30 to 1.33? As I checked wiki, both 100 years war CB and force union CB has 100% ae modifier. Should I PU France in the 2nd war and improve relations with neighbor nations before that rather than right in the 100 years war?
2. After PU France, Burgundy would end the alliance and royal marriage with me as he wants (marks red) the lands in France. Is there a way I can PU France and keep the marriage with Burgundy so I can inherit it later? If I PU France in the 100 years war there is no time to improve enough trust for Burgundy so to speak, and ae from PU France reduces quite a lot relation to Bur in addition. So this may link the question 1 that is it better to PU France in the 2nd war with force union CB?

[bucketofsquid]

It is better to spend time making nice with the vassals France has so they won't help them. When you fight France in the first war try to avoid fighting vassal troops. This will cause the vassals to have a high desire for independence as they come to outnumber their French overlords. When it hits 50% you can do a support independence and weaken France for relatively low cost (dip, adm, and ae). Grab a couple of provinces and weaken France but wait until later for the PU. It also helps to spin off the provinces you take from France as vassals so you get cheap instant cores and can still get new cores cheaply via spy network.

I'm more than a little fuzzy on Burgundy but it needs to be PU after France. A weak France usually means a strong Burgundy unless Austria beats on them. Treat the vassals of Burgundy the same as you did the French vassals. While you are waiting between wars be sure to snarf down as many Irish nations as possible. (snarf is slang for eat)

[grotaclas]

1.32 doubled the AE for forcing a union from 0.1 AE per dev to 0.2 AE per dev. This gets modified by various factors one of which is the 100% from the CB(AFAIK there is no CB which reduces the AE for forcing a union). I think it is better to get the union early, but make sure that you finish the mission "Strategic Control" during the war, because you can't finish it while France is your subject). If you start improving relations at the beginning of the war, you can avoid a coalition by getting enough big countries to positive opinion.

I'm not sure about the burgundy AI. It might depend on the AI personality of the ruler. If they still have their starting ruler, you can hope that Charles gets a personality which wants less land and would accept a new royal marriage.

[Medicles]

1. The PU AE got changed with Leviathan and is now far higher than it used to be. A very good change, because forcing PUs on big and high developed european nations was far too easy, especially with the force union CBs many nations got through their mission trees.

You can still PU France during the Maine war, but you have to keep the opinions up with your neigbours, like you said. You can also PU them later on. Its up to you.

2. I dont think its quite possible for you as England to inherit Burgundy anymore. I believe there is an extremely small chance that you could get the inheritance if you are the only nation who has a royal marriage with them, but the chance is so low that you should never plan around it. Usually the PU either goes to Austria, France or Burgundy stays independent and if you already PUed France, they are not eligible for the PU anymore. That also got changed with Leviathan i believe.

[AOE4 Pls Buff England]

Originally posted by Medicles:

1. The PU AE got changed with Leviathan and is now far higher than it used to be. A very good change, because forcing PUs on big and high developed european nations was far too easy, especially with the force union CBs many nations got through their mission trees.

You can still PU France during the Maine war, but you have to keep the opinions up with your neigbours, like you said. You can also PU them later on. Its up to you.

2. I dont think its quite possible for you as England to inherit Burgundy anymore. I believe there is an extremely small chance that you could get the inheritance if you are the only nation who has a royal marriage with them, but the chance is so low that you should never plan around it. Usually the PU either goes to Austria, France or Burgundy stays independent and if you already PUed France, they are not eligible for the PU anymore. That also got changed with Leviathan i believe.

For 2, Burgundy already rivals Austria and France in my campaign, so I'm very likely to PU him rather than Burgundy stays independent, as Burgundy got PUed by the strongest marriage has 10 base weight but for independent it's only 1 by wiki and codes I heard. With the only 3 or 4 campaigns I played I rarely see Burgundy marry with great powers. I inherited it with Byzantium in 1510 in last campaign. And with SL inherit Burgundy is also possible. (Although I'm not supposed to do it in Ironman, but it's still available)

I think another way is to wait until I PU/inherit Burgundy and then war on France and PU as well.

[Ares]

As others have stated, the AE for PU has gone up. But do PU France in the Maine war, with strong allies no coalition should declear on you.

Regarding the Burgundian inheritance, you should be able to get it as England, royal marry them, keep releations high and best if they have Austria as a rival, but they can still pick you if they don't. I got the Burgudnian inheritance recently as Castile, they had rivaled France, which means they were either gonna pick Austria which they had not rivaled, or their strong ally. Since France will be in a PU under you, france can't get it, and if Burgundy rivals Austria, i think you got a decent chance of getting it. Not shure what the chances are, but i also think they adjusted this change that was first introduced, as i remember it was initially not possible to get it as Castile, or atleast it seemed that way, but i think they made an adjustment so that allies could still get it.

[AOE4 Pls Buff England]

Originally posted by Ares:

As others have stated, the AE for PU has gone up. But do PU France in the Maine war, with strong allies no coalition should declear on you.

Regarding the Burgundian inheritance, you should be able to get it as England, royal marry them, keep releations high and best if they have Austria as a rival, but they can still pick you if they don't. I got the Burgudnian inheritance recently as Castile, they had rivaled France, which means they were either gonna pick Austria which they had not rivaled, or their strong ally. Since France will be in a PU under you, france can't get it, and if Burgundy rivals Austria, i think you got a decent chance of getting it. Not shure what the chances are, but i also think they adjusted this change that was first introduced, as i remember it was initially not possible to get it as Castile, or atleast it seemed that way, but i think they made an adjustment so that allies could still get it.

Thinking the same. The Burgundy problem is that he wants Reims, Nemours, Leon, Berry and Troyes if I PU France in the Maine war and then -1000 on the alliance willingness further cut the marriage and ally. Inherit Bur seems easy in the campaign as he rivals France and Austria.

[AOE4 Pls Buff England]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

1.32 doubled the AE for forcing a union from 0.1 AE per dev to 0.2 AE per dev. This gets modified by various factors one of which is the 100% from the CB(AFAIK there is no CB which reduces the AE for forcing a union). I think it is better to get the union early, but make sure that you finish the mission "Strategic Control" during the war, because you can't finish it while France is your subject). If you start improving relations at the beginning of the war, you can avoid a coalition by getting enough big countries to positive opinion.

I'm not sure about the burgundy AI. It might depend on the AI personality of the ruler. If they still have their starting ruler, you can hope that Charles gets a personality which wants less land and would accept a new royal marriage.

It's Charles now, and he wants Reims, Nemours, Leon, Berry and Troyes ;)

[bri]

Personally I just ate France slowly when I did that achievement. It's not like you can race through and finish it since it requires playing to the enlightenment for one of the final missions. No coalition worries, no unruly subject issues, skipped the Maine war so no re-start for perfect allies needed, etc.. First war with France was mostly sitzkrieg then I snipe occupied and got Gascony a core or two returned with the 100% vs Scotland. Next round I had annexed back Normandy and brought in Castile+Aragon after the IW and Austria with predictable results of finishing Gascon cores, Paris, and some other stuff for me. After that it was just mopping up that was easily completed 100+ years before I could even start the last few missions...

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by 30:

It's Charles now, and he wants Reims, Nemours, Leon, Berry and Troyes ;)

Which personality does he have?

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

In earlier versions Burgundy was still able to pick France in the Burgundian Inheritance event, even if France was a junior partner themselves; in this case, it would end up causing Burgundy to become a junior partner of France's overlord instead. I distinctly recall reading that this was changed/fixed in one of the updates past 1.30 (don't remember which).

However, there was another oddity that I don't recall hearing was fixed, though it might have been anyway. In 1.30, a subjugated France would still get the event to contest the Burgundian Inheritance if Austria got it, and pull you into a succession war without you having any say in the matter (though the game at least had the decency to make you war leader). I have yet to roll forward past 1.30.6, so I can't say whether that can still happen in current versions. I had this happen in my last England/GB game, and while Austria got "The Duchess of Burgundy Dies" event way too fast for me to see whether I could steal the PU from them in the peace deal, I was able to use the opportunity to take a Burgundian province and re-release them as a vassal, allowing me to reconquest my way through the Low Countries over the next few wars for far less AE than it would otherwise have been.