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kundirr47 Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:05am
Help! Fabricate claim?
Hi, i want to fabricate claim from my vassal but i can’t. My vassal dont fabricate claim and because of this i cant declare war through my vassal’s casus belli. How can i do that?
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bri Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:07am 
It depends, what DLC do you have?
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firestar587 Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:07am 
you can't as of rn (least not that im aware of)

edit: im assmueing base game
Last edited by firestar587; Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:07am
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kundirr47 Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by bri:
It depends, what DLC do you have?
Which dlc is needed? I have common sense, art of war, rights of man, cossack, cradle of civ, mandate of heaven.
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Halcyon Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:21am 
I think the question is rather 'how to make a vassal fabricate a claim' than 'how to use a vassal's claim for a CB'.

I don't know of a way to directly tell a vassal to do so, but I suppose you could try setting the provinces to 'vital importance' and see if they do something.
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WW Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Not sure if it is DLC blocked as I have all, but under diplomacy there is a tab called diplomatic feedback - with that mapmode you can highlight provinces of interest. highlight the provinces you want vassals to claim. With time the vassals should get claims.

Hotkeys to get to the mapmode: F1 -> 3 -> d then click the province to red as 'vital importance' then wait for the vassal to claim
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tonypa Dec 13, 2018 @ 11:45am 
Province of Interest requires The Cossacks DLC.
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Mr.M Dec 13, 2018 @ 12:28pm 
Guess he means the new mechanic to fabricate FOR vassals

AFAIK you need Espionage ideas. One of the ideas says "may fabricate claims for vassals"
Last edited by Mr.M; Dec 13, 2018 @ 12:29pm
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tonypa Dec 13, 2018 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:
Guess he means the new mechanic to fabricate FOR vassals

AFAIK you need Espionage ideas. One of the ideas says "may fabricate claims for vassals"
Ah, that is nice new addition.

Tested it out. After you unlock Espionage idea 5 Claim Fabrication, you will build up Spy network with target country yourself. But then you can spend the Network to fabricate claim for your vassal, as long your vassal has neighbouring province with target country.
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Mr.M Dec 13, 2018 @ 1:14pm 
Btw - available for basegame me thinks

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tonypa Dec 13, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Yep, base game feature.
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bri Dec 13, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
Espionage ideas still aren't worth taking though...
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firestar587 Dec 14, 2018 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by bri:
Espionage ideas still aren't worth taking though...
def not worth it theres aton of better idea groups

edit: have they always had -20% AE?
Last edited by firestar587; Dec 14, 2018 @ 1:44am
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White Spice Dec 14, 2018 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by firestar587:
Originally posted by bri:
Espionage ideas still aren't worth taking though...
def not worth it theres aton of better idea groups

edit: have they always had -20% AE?

Was moved from influence idea I believe.
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firestar587 Dec 14, 2018 @ 3:23am 
well there may be a reason to take it now -20% AE is very nice (even more so if your in the HRE)
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Mr.M Dec 14, 2018 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by bri:
Espionage ideas still aren't worth taking though...

Since Espionage got now -20% AE and get -25% stab cost with innovative it MIGHT be worth a shot

And for Hordes/Poland/Hungary for 30% cav strength ofc

Else the rest of the policies just suck too much...

They should definitely look a bit further into policies since the rework enabled to pick a lot more for free with certain NIs and decisions...
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