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Too many provinces/provinces too small.
Any way to play on previous EU4 maps where the provinces are bigger, while still using modern DLCs and mechanics? There's only one mod for fewer provinces in the workshop, and it's half broken.
Last edited by Armenian Genocide; Mar 27, 2022 @ 8:02pm
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RCMidas Mar 27, 2022 @ 7:59pm 
Wait, I'm confused...are there too many provinces or are they too big? Because making provinces smaller would necessitate MORE of them to fill the same world space?
Armenian Genocide Mar 27, 2022 @ 8:02pm 
Too many provinces because they are too small.

Spain used to be half as many provinces are they are now.
RCMidas Mar 27, 2022 @ 8:05pm 
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, no. That's something that'll take someone a very long time to do and they'll probably need to be asked to do it. Through a Patreon or something, because what you're functionally after is a rework of the entire map. Hundreds of tags to deal with, especially within North America, India, and Europe.
Armenian Genocide Mar 27, 2022 @ 8:44pm 
I'm mostly hoping just playing on EU4 map from like 7 years ago, but without reverting the entire game to the old version. just the map
Marquoz Mar 27, 2022 @ 9:10pm 
At least the option to revert the game does exist. But you're right--if you want current mechanics, you have to play on the current map. Perhaps you can create the mod yourself. A desire for the otherwise impossible is the genesis of most mods.
bri Mar 27, 2022 @ 10:18pm 
You might be able to short-cut your mod by reverting to an early version of the game and ripping out the map and province files. There'd likely be a fair bit of work to do afterwards but it would be a lot less work than re-drawing the map by hand.

You may also want to check the user modding forum on the official forums for advice or to see if there are any mods of the type out there.
Last edited by bri; Mar 27, 2022 @ 10:19pm
Exarch_Alpha Mar 28, 2022 @ 8:46am 
I liked the map more on release. 1.1 player, looooong time ago.

My opinion of course.
Rabob Mar 28, 2022 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by bri:
You might be able to short-cut your mod by reverting to an early version of the game and ripping out the map and province files. There'd likely be a fair bit of work to do afterwards but it would be a lot less work than re-drawing the map by hand.

You may also want to check the user modding forum on the official forums for advice or to see if there are any mods of the type out there.

Yeah it should work, but gets really complicated probably because we have new trade goods, monuments and perhaps specific events related to provinces as well. Plus I don't think there were states/territories/trade companies etc before a certain point. So it will be a lot of work even with that.
bri Mar 28, 2022 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Rabob:
Originally posted by bri:
You might be able to short-cut your mod by reverting to an early version of the game and ripping out the map and province files. There'd likely be a fair bit of work to do afterwards but it would be a lot less work than re-drawing the map by hand.

You may also want to check the user modding forum on the official forums for advice or to see if there are any mods of the type out there.

Yeah it should work, but gets really complicated probably because we have new trade goods, monuments and perhaps specific events related to provinces as well. Plus I don't think there were states/territories/trade companies etc before a certain point. So it will be a lot of work even with that.

Yeah, that's why I said there'd still be a fair bit of work. Of course it also depends on how far back he has to go to get a map he can live with. Trade companies have been around for quite a while, states not quite as long but they aren't exactly recent additions either unlike the ridiculous numbers of tags and provinces that were added in 1.31 just over a year ago...
bri Mar 28, 2022 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:
I liked the map more on release. 1.1 player, looooong time ago.

My opinion of course.

I wouldn't hate going back to the 1.1 map although I did really like the North Atlantic trade node era...
M82 Mar 28, 2022 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Armenian Genocide:
Any way to play on previous EU4 maps where the provinces are bigger, while still using modern DLCs and mechanics? There's only one mod for fewer provinces in the workshop, and it's half broken.

Well then you'd miss out on Trent, which is the single best country to play in this game
As somebody who started playing in 1.30, a lot of the old provinces look absolutely horrendous to me whenever I see them in old screenshots or videos.
Brutal_Mischief Mar 28, 2022 @ 5:39pm 
They looked horrendous back then as well.

Never forget Square Memel.
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