Iberian Wedding

[EricB]

So I'm playing a game as Naples and got an event early to break free from Aragon without an independence war. I got an alliance with Castille and before I was ready to declare war Castille launched a war against Aragon, who they were rivaled with. I joined the war and could only manage to occupy Sicily as Aragon's navy was too powerful to go elsewhere.

In the peace Castille gave me Messina (in Sicily) and they took provinces for themselves.

Then I had a truce with Aragon. Way before the truce expired the Iberian Wedding event fired and made Aragon a subject of Castille. Castille also attacked Portugal and put them under a PU as well. Now I'm sitting here with cores in Sicily that I can't get because I'd have to take on Castille, Aragon, and Portugal plus any other allies.

It seems ridiculous that the Iberian wedding happens like that. Castille is already a powerhouse before it, and it just propels Spain way up. I wish it wasn't a scripted event like that and only happened sometimes, or that other things like that would happen to different countries and not always Castille.

I'm still managing and have been expanding north and east (to the Balkans), but being cut off from Sicily like that has made expanded to Tunis impossible.

Just a rant about how annoying the Iberian Wedding event is. I thought it would happen in the 1490s and I'd have some time. It happened in like 1455.

[AC Denton]

It pops any "random" time between 1450 and 1530 if the two rulers are of the opposite sex. That said, it's pretty OP as not much can stop it, which sucks. It is what it is though, it'd be pretty weird in Naples could single handedly take on Castile, Aragon and Portugal then win.

In the end, the best way to win in Europe is ally Austria/Emperor until they're no longer needed.

[Medicles]

Dont worry. The more you play the game and gather experience, the easier it is to deal with these kind of things. The most important part is if you have learned anything out of this experience.

[MasterYi]

Take the Age Ability for fabricating claims bordering claims to get a Conquest CB on Tunis without actually sharing a sea tile.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by EricB:

It seems ridiculous that the Iberian wedding happens like that. Castille is already a powerhouse before it, and it just propels Spain way up. I wish it wasn't a scripted event like that and only happened sometimes, or that other things like that would happen to different countries and not always Castille.

It does only happen sometimes- I've played quite a few games where the wedding never fires and Aragon just slowly eats Castile alive (or rarely vice versa). It's just RNG; sometimes you get the bar, sometimes the bar gets you.

[Marquoz]

As Malvastor says, it's not guaranteed. It happens in around two thirds of the games I play, which I think is a good level for an actual historical event that had major global consequences.

[andrewjonjones]

The best time it happened for me was when I was allied with Aragon we were both at war with Castile Aragon got peaced out of the war, then the event fired and Aragon rejoined on the enemies side.

[EricB]

Originally posted by andrewjonjones:

The best time it happened for me was when I was allied with Aragon we were both at war with Castile Aragon got peaced out of the war, then the event fired and Aragon rejoined on the enemies side.

That's awful. It seems like it shouldn't fire if they are at war and be less likely to fire if they are rivaled. I'm pretty new to the game and thought that it wasn't likely to happen since Castille and Aragon were rivals. I guess that doesn't matter. It seems silly that rivals would all of a sudden become the best of friends like that.

It's 1555 in that game now and I'm still stuck with just Messina from Sicily. lol

Castille and Aragon have become Spain now. I'm doing alright. I've expanded into a lot of northern Italy and east to the Balkans taking Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, Ragusa, etc. I'm allied with Hungary and Austria. The Ottomans are a massive juggernaut and attacked Venice who was allied with France. When I saw that I got Austria to join me in an offensive war vs the Ottomans at the same time. Hungary wouldn't join. I'm also allied with Milan, and they wouldn't join either (too pre-occupied with their own war). I managed to win the war but couldn't get too high of a war score because the Ottoman navy was too strong, and I couldn't rely on France/Venice for too long and Austria was doing a little but not as much as I'd like. I'm playing with a mod that makes the AI act more like a human player would, so they weren't going all-in. They were putting some towards the Ottomans and defending their own territory.

It was enough to get a few provinces from them and release them as Byzantium, who I made a march. Then a war followed that where we picked apart Venice, so we're making progress. When I'm strong enough we'll get Sicily from Spain.