Burgundian Succession for Aragon.

[Ares]

Is it possible to get the succession for Aragon after 1500? I have save scummed, and not really going for any achivement. And this is after 3 games that it has not fired before 1500. And even on this 4'th Charles is 80 and Marie is 72 and it's after 1500. I see the succession fire, but im not shure it's the same as the one before 1500, i dont see any event. And after reloading several times now they either choose Austria or them selves. I have seen them chosing many other allies when iv'e played other nations. But i think those were before 1500.

[Ares]

Formed Spain to see if that helped, not shure it has, i have read that if Spain has a royal Mariage with Austria, and austria get's the inheritance, then spain gets the lands afterwards? If so, is that only if Spain has a Habsburg on the throne?

[Ares]

I did'nt have a habsburg, so i disinherited my heir and hoped for the strategic marriage event, which is now changed from all the other times i have played Castile/spain before the Emperor update. You now get the lowlands that Austria controlls, so in my case, i got all but Brabant, which broke off their union. Shame i couldent get all of Burgundy, since i had been feeding them french lands as an ally but this was pretty nice too.

[bri]

Unless something changed significantly when they reworked it from an event to an HRE crisis the Burgundian succession must fire before 1500 or it's not going to.

[Forever NOOb]

Here,read this.
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Incident_events#The_Burgundian_Inheritance_.5B1.5D

[grotaclas]

The year 1500 doesn't matter for the burgundian inheritance anymore. It triggers when Charles dies no matter when that happens. But it has to be the Charles from the history files and not some other ruler of the same name and he must either have Marie from the event as an heir or the heir must not have a strong claim(I think this is fulfilled in your case). Usually Charles dies before 1500, but sometimes he lives longer.
If you want the inheritance you must have a royal marriage with Burgundy(and be an independent monarchy) and you must have initiated the royal marriage. If Burgundy send you the royal marriage offer and you accepted it, the royal marriage will break when Charles dies and you won't be eligible in the event which happens afterwards. And if there are multiple countries with a royal marriage with Burgundy who are not the emperor, only the country with the most provinces should be eligible, but I'm not sure if that is working correctly.
But even if you are eligible you need some luck to be chosen(and not France or the emperor)

[Ares]

That's correct, as it fired in 1516. I had a royal mariage, i think i had initiated the marriage, but im not certain, and i wasent aware of that. I was the only country eligible, succession wise. But each time i did a alt+F4 after not getting it and loaded up again, they would always choose either them selves or the Emperor, this was also a pretty powerful Burgundy with me as their ally throughout the game, and france was pretty much dead. I had 100 prestige and Legitimacy, my ruler was a female tho, could that have had anything to do with it? That would make sence if Marie is suppose to marry the one who inherits.

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Ares:

my ruler was a female tho, could that have had anything to do with it? That would make sence if Marie is suppose to marry the one who inherits.

I didn't see anything in the event code that would suggest that the gender of your ruler has an impact.
If Burgundy is a great power, they are more likely to choose themselves. You can see all the factors in the wiki article which Forever Noob linked above.

[Ares]

Wow, while being in a war cause Austria called me in, Neatherlands declears independence without any rebbels spawning, i was planing on just fighting the dutch rebelles or moving my capitol there, did'nt think they would outright spawn as a country without any rebells spawning first. And to take it all back will cost over 80 AE, seems like the best option is to white peace them and decleare a reconquest war. The coaltion wont be a problem, but rather not be slowed by that much AE, well that sucked.

[Ares]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Ares:

my ruler was a female tho, could that have had anything to do with it? That would make sence if Marie is suppose to marry the one who inherits.

I didn't see anything in the event code that would suggest that the gender of your ruler has an impact.
If Burgundy is a great power, they are more likely to choose themselves. You can see all the factors in the wiki article which Forever Noob linked above.

No i havent either. They were a great power. While i was the nr1 great power. Yeah i looked at it. but didnt see anything that should have stopped me having a chance to get it.

[Iwanow]

Burgundy has to rival the emperor.
If not, then it is almost sure that they choose the PU with the Emperor.

Had it happen to me. Burgundy rivaled Austria at the start, later Austria lost the emperorship to Bohemia and voila, shortly after, BI fired and #/$$/&

[Ares]

Ok, so they will not choose a rival. How about occupying them, is that still a viable tactic? Think you had to get Burgundy to 70 warscore and just sit on him til the event fire, it was still rng tho.

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Ares:

How about occupying them, is that still a viable tactic? Think you had to get Burgundy to 70 warscore and just sit on him til the event fire, it was still rng tho.

This doesn't matter anymore. In the old version, the burgundian inheritance was an event which could become more likely by various factors(e.g. very negative warscore) and that event killed burgundy's ruler.
But since 1.30, it only gets triggered when Charles dies

[Ares]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Ares:

How about occupying them, is that still a viable tactic? Think you had to get Burgundy to 70 warscore and just sit on him til the event fire, it was still rng tho.

This doesn't matter anymore. In the old version, the burgundian inheritance was an event which could become more likely by various factors(e.g. very negative warscore) and that event killed burgundy's ruler.
But since 1.30, it only gets triggered when Charles dies

Ah, so that is removed, i was looking for the succession crisis event, which i think it was called. Just gotto hope charles doest grow so old as he seems to do when im trying to get the event.