Best ideas for Papal States?

[Zhong Xina]

I haven't played the game since Mare Nostrum. What is the ideas meta now? I'm planning to dominate the Mediterranean area as the Papal States. What ideas should I take?

[Kago™².]

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

[Tulduil Iphukiir]

- Singleplayer or Multiplayer?
- Do you plan many conquests? Or are you content with Italy (and maybe some more provinces around the Mediterranean)?
- Do you like to play with subjects?
- Do you want to dominate the Mediterranean Sea or the coasts around it?
- Do you want to colonize mid/lategame? (Earlygame is probably not an option for the Papal States)
- Do you want to use (or even rely) on Mercenaries? Do you want an extremely strong army or an army just strong enough to achieve your goals?
- Do you want a strong fleet?

[Zhong Xina]

In general, I wanted to dominate the coast. Italy, Balkans, Anatolia, Levant, North Africa etc. Don't want to colonize.

[Mr.M]

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

[ArchiV]

Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

i do, why, is that a matter to you ?

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

Literally anyone? Not like it's one of the better idea groups in the game or anything...

[Kago™².]

Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

Anyone. I pick economic ideas in every game I play. Usually my first idea if im not Castile or Portugal.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

Anyone. I pick economic ideas in every game I play. Usually my first idea if im not Castile or Portugal.

Not anyone. Economic is an ok group if you're playing tall, but not if you're a serious blobber. Blobbers like myself prefer Administration, Diplomacy, Influence, Religious or Humanist, and Exploration/Expansion (for colonial powers). I find that boosting my economy through conquest is far more cost effective than boosting it through the Economic idea group. Trade is another favorite--even with TC's and colonial nations, I can always use more and better merchants. Economy just doesn't cut it compared to those.

[HoridMatec]

innovative-offensive-humanism-diplo-quality .

[Raider Deci]

Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:

Originally posted by Kago™².:

Economic/Quantity/Religious ideas are the meta now. Dev meta/stacking and deux vult CB

Who the fk would pick economic in Singleplayer...? In ITALY...?!?

Depends on the run & goals maybe? If your goal is to get tons of money through trade and production the policy with trade-ideas is alright. But if you play a nation with gold-mines, especially several, that inflation reduction alone makes it worth it.


But anyway screw meta... Just pick what sounds like fun