What is the best version of EU4?

[Jyggalag]

Hello.
So I'm a former Europa Universalis player and I never liked the 4 (and I have owned it since 2014.).
Think what you think about it, that's not the point.
However it's been a long time since I run this game, so I'm not on it often, when I do a game on it and I finish it I do another one MUCH longer after.
So in the meantime I missed some "periods/updates".

So I'd like to know according to you with argument what is the best version of Europa Universalis 4.
The current version is really for me one of the worst and I would like to know what is the version that you recommend to me please (maybe some without in the same case as me).

Apparently one of the best versions was 1.25.1 but maybe you have another version to suggest (with or without DLC).

Best regards.

[tonypa]

Difficult to suggest anything without knowing what you are looking for. You say current version is worst, but you provide no reasoning about why.

Personally I only play latest version (giving the developers some time to fix major bugs after big updates). I don't buy all the DLCs but the base game is still updated.

[Brady Gunner]

EU3 honestly... but I personally liked Manchu 1.28 the most excluding the disaster that was the new launcher

[Raider Deci]

Each to their own. Personally im getting off this train and staying at 1.30.6 (latest emperor patch)

[EmptyK]

I've got to echo Raider's choice. Until 1.31 is sufficiently fixed--or maybe if--I'm going to be sticking with the relatively stable and balanced 1.30.6. I've been having a lot of fun with it coming back after about a year of off time.

But if you're not sure which version you would like best then I'd suggest trying them all, starting with 1.30 and going backwards from there.

[Jyggalag]

Originally posted by Brady Gunner:

EU3 honestly... but I personally liked Manchu 1.28 the most excluding the disaster that was the new launcher

Europa Universalis 3 is my favourite EU game, and I'm looking for a return on the money I invested in EU4.
That's why I made this topic.

[Jyggalag]

Thank you for your answers.
For the moment I'm on Europa Universalis 2: For the Glory while waiting to decide which version I want.
Personally I have trouble understanding some of your choices because when I read the modifications and patches concerning 1.30 or 1.31
These two versions still seem broken.
So I don't know if what you're telling me is from your fanboy point of view or is true (I'm not provoking you, I just have a doubt, that's why I'm asking to collect information).

I'm going to wait for 1.31.5 to play a more recent version but apparently it doesn't seem to be enough according to the Beta.

Anyway, Brady noted 1.28, I'll take a look at the Wiki to see what's in there.

Thanks

[0.17 mph when threatened]

I've been on 1.30.4 because 1.30.5 was broke and I've been there ever since given that I do not like the features introduced in 1.31. DLCalis 4 is complete until they release DLCalis5 but I hope it's not as bare as DLCKings 3.

[Leo Atreides]

1.30.6 because it is the last version before the tinto scam.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Brady Gunner:

EU3 honestly... but I personally liked Manchu 1.28 the most excluding the disaster that was the new launcher

The new launcher i think is so much easier to use for modding stuff. Was pretty bad at first though (no scrolling? how did nobody notice that?).
I had a lot of issues with the previous one that i don't have with the new one, ill say that much.

[Brady Gunner]

Originally posted by Traror:

Originally posted by Brady Gunner:

EU3 honestly... but I personally liked Manchu 1.28 the most excluding the disaster that was the new launcher

The new launcher i think is so much easier to use for modding stuff. Was pretty bad at first though (no scrolling? how did nobody notice that?).
I had a lot of issues with the previous one that i don't have with the new one, ill say that much.

I loved the old launcher, was very simple and minimalistic. At launch the new one was absolutely horrible, For some reason it even defaulted to settings which would make the game literally unplayable for thousands of people and Paradox refused to fix the problem, but I guess that was Windows 10 related? Still stupid to default to settings that don't work on Win 10. I want the old launcher back honestly, idk if there's a way to do that without breaking the game.

[Canon]

Originally posted by Brady Gunner:

Originally posted by Traror:

The new launcher i think is so much easier to use for modding stuff. Was pretty bad at first though (no scrolling? how did nobody notice that?).
I had a lot of issues with the previous one that i don't have with the new one, ill say that much.

I loved the old launcher, was very simple and minimalistic. At launch the new one was absolutely horrible, For some reason it even defaulted to settings which would make the game literally unplayable for thousands of people and Paradox refused to fix the problem, but I guess that was Windows 10 related? Still stupid to default to settings that don't work on Win 10. I want the old launcher back honestly, idk if there's a way to do that without breaking the game.

Fun fact
92.87% of Steam users are on Windows 10 (64-bit)
(as of the may steam hardware survey)

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Brady Gunner:

Originally posted by Traror:

The new launcher i think is so much easier to use for modding stuff. Was pretty bad at first though (no scrolling? how did nobody notice that?).
I had a lot of issues with the previous one that i don't have with the new one, ill say that much.

I loved the old launcher, was very simple and minimalistic. At launch the new one was absolutely horrible, For some reason it even defaulted to settings which would make the game literally unplayable for thousands of people and Paradox refused to fix the problem, but I guess that was Windows 10 related? Still stupid to default to settings that don't work on Win 10. I want the old launcher back honestly, idk if there's a way to do that without breaking the game.

Ya at launch it was bad, but PDX has fixed many problems, idk if they fixed *all* of them.
I used to miss the old launcher but the new launcher is so much easier (in my opinion) to work with when it comes to modding, i had alot of issues with the old way of doing stuff, i think i completely deleted then remade a mod like 3 times just because that was easier than trying to find out what the problem was, and i have not had to do that with the new launcher. Alot of new buttons for the new launcher, all of which i think have a good purpose for existing relating to mods

This is all just my opinion of course, but as it is now, I prefer the new launcher by far.
Also, the reason why, is bc of modding, which is the mods are the best thing about PDX games.

[Sharpie The Dragon]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Difficult to suggest anything without knowing what you are looking for. You say current version is worst, but you provide no reasoning about why.

-Concentrate development makes 80 AI development cities by 1600 and 5,000 development player capitals.

-An incredible amount of bugs, poor optimisation that slows the game down, lack of beta testers.

-AI keeps releasing nations if it's slightly over government capacity. Ex. Spain releases Aragon when it forms.

-Literal super natives that can go to duchy reform rank is less than 30 years.

[Ellye]

Regarding EU3: Is there a way to get it to run properly on Windows 10?

I can sorta of run it, but it's unstable and crashes easily. Even FTG runs better.

[Jyggalag]

Originally posted by Ellye:

Regarding EU3: Is there a way to get it to run properly on Windows 10?

I can sorta of run it, but it's unstable and crashes easily. Even FTG runs better.

For some strange reason, my EU3 works totally fine on Windows 10.
All my EU3 versions in fact.
I have both a Full Vanilla DVD version of my vintage collector's edition that works perfectly and my steam version "the Chronicle" that also works.
I've had crash but they were extremely rare.

I'm surprised that some people can't launch the game on Windows 10.
After I specify that my version of Windows 10 is a version chopped customize by me, it is perhaps that makes that I have no problem.