+50 Native assimilation or +20 global settler increase?

[monicaida25]

which one is worth more?

[Usaball]

+20 global settler increase, you can just station 1k-5k troops on a province to stop colonial rebellions and develop your colonies faster on top of it.

[monicaida25]

Originally posted by Usaball:

+20 global settler increase, you can just station 1k-5k troops on a province to stop colonial rebellions and develop your colonies faster on top of it.

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by monicaida25:

Originally posted by Usaball:

+20 global settler increase, you can just station 1k-5k troops on a province to stop colonial rebellions and develop your colonies faster on top of it.

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

Can't you spare 1k per colony even if you only have 20k soldiers? You don't need to colonize provinces with 8k natives in the early game.
Native assimilation gives goods produced after the colony is finished. As with all features, you can learn about it on the wiki: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Native_assimilation

[Usaball]

Originally posted by monicaida25:

Originally posted by Usaball:

+20 global settler increase, you can just station 1k-5k troops on a province to stop colonial rebellions and develop your colonies faster on top of it.

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

Well, you don't even really have to keep your troops constantly there, you can choose to wipe them out entirely for 5 mil points in the province you're colonizing. Native assimilation just decreases the chance of a colonial uprising by 50%. And no, the events are defaulted and randomized. However, if you decide to keep natives until you get a full colony, you do get production bonuses.

[monicaida25]

Originally posted by Usaball:

Originally posted by monicaida25:

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

Well, you don't even really have to keep your troops constantly there, you can choose to wipe them out entirely for 5 mil points in the province you're colonizing. Native assimilation just decreases the chance of a colonial uprising by 50%. And no, the events are defaulted and randomized. However, if you decide to keep natives until you get a full colony, you do get production bonuses.

Originally posted by Usaball:

Originally posted by monicaida25:

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

Well, you don't even really have to keep your troops constantly there, you can choose to wipe them out entirely for 5 mil points in the province you're colonizing. Native assimilation just decreases the chance of a colonial uprising by 50%. And no, the events are defaulted and randomized. However, if you decide to keep natives until you get a full colony, you do get production bonuses.

I think you are confused, or maybe I misunderstood, because why do I have both in the same policy? what does this mean?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2609980511

[Poil]

-uprising chance is less chance of an uprising
+assimilation is an increase to the production bonus you get from leaving the natives alive (hold mouse cursor over the population number to see the amount, not sure if it takes the bonus into account though).

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Colonization

[Julius]

Originally posted by Usaball:

Originally posted by monicaida25:

well, sometimes you have a maximum army size between 20 and 24, and you are colonizing 3 provinces, so you can't always do that :P

But what does native assimilation do? increases the odds of events where you get +100 population?

Well, you don't even really have to keep your troops constantly there, you can choose to wipe them out entirely for 5 mil points in the province you're colonizing. Native assimilation just decreases the chance of a colonial uprising by 50%. And no, the events are defaulted and randomized. However, if you decide to keep natives until you get a full colony, you do get production bonuses.

I dont remember what bonuses decreases the cost for wiping out the natives. But on default it is like 50 millitary points to wipe out the natives early game. In my opinion it's not worth wasting monarch power like that

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Julius:

I dont remember what bonuses decreases the cost for wiping out the natives. But on default it is like 50 millitary points to wipe out the natives early game. In my opinion it's not worth wasting monarch power like that

According to the wiki[eu4.paradoxwikis.com] it "costs a small amount of military power proportional to the population, aggressiveness, and ferocity of the natives". 50 mil power is on upper end of the spectrum(maybe it is even the cap). You can often find provinces where the natives are much cheaper and easier to kill.

[monicaida25]

understood, thank you!! ^^

[tavald.musashi]

+20 pop; Is very good on the early game, and will help you colonize faster, it better on places you will give to colonial nations.

Native assimilation will increase the money the province gives, half will go to production, and half to trade.
It is better on provinces you will keep for yourself.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by Julius:

I dont remember what bonuses decreases the cost for wiping out the natives. But on default it is like 50 millitary points to wipe out the natives early game. In my opinion it's not worth wasting monarch power like that

Military monarch points arent important enough to save up. They are mainly used to tech up or to push specific buttons like "break siege" or "kill natives".

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Originally posted by Julius:

I dont remember what bonuses decreases the cost for wiping out the natives. But on default it is like 50 millitary points to wipe out the natives early game. In my opinion it's not worth wasting monarch power like that

Military monarch points arent important enough to save up. They are mainly used to tech up or to push specific buttons like "break siege" or "kill natives".

Mil points are the main source of Manpower.

Both deving Manpower to boost your pool size and rolling generals to get professionalism to slacken to refill manpower.

Is this necessary in Singleplayer? no. Is it the best use of mil points in most situations? yes.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by tavald.musashi:

+20 pop; Is very good on the early game, and will help you colonize faster, it better on places you will give to colonial nations.

Native assimilation will increase the money the province gives, half will go to production, and half to trade.
It is better on provinces you will keep for yourself.

This is false

Goods produced is increased by alive natives
Trade from colonies is supposed to be steered to your main node to be collected there...
So no, keeping natives alive is always better barring 1k or less/ province
But even then, i wouldnt spend mil points on that lemao, as the cheapest provinces to purge, are the least likely to revolt

[bri]

So no, keeping natives alive is always better barring 1k or less/ province
But even then, i wouldnt spend mil points on that lemao, as the cheapest provinces to purge, are the least likely to revolt

Yes and no. In the areas that will become colonial nations it's absolutely correct that you shouldn't purge the natives. However, in some old world areas you'll want to purge them so the colonist flips the province religion and culture to yours rather than retaining the base values, especially if you aren't going to be able to put the province into a trade company.

[Narrowmind]

Yes, very good points.