As Inca, when will I be able to build boats?

[Gonzo_o0]

This is my first playthrough since about a year. I know a lot has changed since my last game. I am currently going for the "A Sun God" achievement and I was wondering if Westernization is still a thing with the new Institutions mechanic. For the chievo, I have to:

1. Reform my religion;
2. Embrace all Institutions;
3. Core and own all of SA.

For step 3, I need some islands cored, which implies boats. At what point in the process will they be available? I've been looking for some info online on the subject but everything i found pre-dates all the changes. Thanks for your help.

[wakey wakey]

You can only build boats if westernized.(reformed) Before that change you could do kinda funny stuff with europen nations as an native, because they would never be able to defeat your fleet.

Btw. Sunset Invasion at the time I was doing(doesn't work anymore ;) ) was all about blocking Bermuda and european nations had no chance at all. ;>

Edit: Nowadays you need to embrace feudalism which is even worse(tbh waaaay worse) if you do not exploit it. :>

[tinisiyo]

dont you get 2nd step as soon as you border western nation and reform religion?

[Gonzo_o0]

Originally posted by wakey wakey:

You can only build boats if westernized.(reformed)

Good news then. I delayed my Reformations until i had a good enough economy/force limit/development to be able to rush through all of them in about 20-30ish years. I'm roflstomping the Civil War rebels like there's no tomorrow. Very costly on the Stability hits though. I'm currently at my fourth one, very close to the fifth. So soon to pump out Boaty McBoatfaces. =)

Originally posted by tinisiyo:

dont you get 2nd step as soon as you border western nation and reform religion?

Yeah, I read that somewhere. I have no clue how Institutions work, especially for "primitive" nations. I hope I'm not gonna get screwed by something I overlooked. I'm bordering New Granada (Castile) to the north and I have 3/4 Institutions already Present in every bordering province. And it's spreading.

[phantommail]

If you bordering western colony already just pass your religions reforms as quickly as you can.
After that hit the magic "reform religion" button and you will get all institutions and extra tech levels. And remember - you cant embrace institutions before reform. Even if they present in your provinces