Teutonic->Prussia->United Holy Roman Empire

[TylerofQueens]

I'm currently doing a play through where I evolve the Teutons into Prussia then become Emporer of the HRE and pass all the Imperial Reforms....Any Advice? Also trying to become an elector before becoming prussia, any advice on how to do that?

[Rimuru]

Don't pass the final reform. You have with all the reforms before becoming the HRE nation both the prussian militarization and free vassal creation.
Avoid completely gimping your militarization (you lose alot of points per province) by keeping vassals around.
It's win-win. You get great income and all the HRE emperor bonuses while retaining no fuss militarization maxed out.

While some may argue otherwise i feel the game actually punishes you for going prussia->germany or prussia->HRE with the militarization costs and all the demerits from unification.
Demerits losing all that HRE income and reform bonuses , diplomatically you're gonna fight france probably and so forth.

That being said you'll still be an unstoppable juggernaut once you break poland-lithuania. (likely obstacle to prussian rampages)

[Quicksilver]

While you are a monastic order becoming an elector will be next to impossible (it is technically possible if an elector slot is open and the emperor wants to gain rep from you badly enough) but the main route for gaining elector status is to gain a personal union over an elector and inherit them (monastics cant RM).

I suggest blobbing your way through livonia -> russia to stockpile non-HRE provinces for fast reforming once you gain emperor status. It clashes with the prussian monarchy mechanics, but as a non-elector forming prussia you'll likely wanting to save the formation decision until after becoming emperor.

[Quicksilver]

Originally posted by Quicksilver:

While you are a monastic order becoming an elector will be next to impossible (it is technically possible if an elector slot is open and the emperor wants to gain rep from you badly enough) but the main route for gaining elector status is to gain a personal union over an elector and inherit them (monastics cant RM).

(There are a few ways around the govt issue, such as noble rebels enforcing demands etc, and there are some convoluted routes to making yourself the only eligable elector candidate such as force converting most of the princes to protestant, and then converting to catholic at the same time as creating an unfilled elector position.)

[Erich von Manstein]

This is my HRE.

Ironman game, normal difficulty.

https://pasteboard.co/ymvAr0oI.png

I had Erb before religious leagues, enabling me to gather IA at rate of 0.50, and also managed to reign in Italian states before 1490.

I have revoked around 1550 and made Renovatio 10 years before end game ;) Easier to conquer with vassal swarm than as one state.

[Rimuru]

Originally posted by Fritzl:

This is my HRE.

Ironman game, normal difficulty.

https://pasteboard.co/ymvAr0oI.png

I had Erb before religious leagues, enabling me to gather IA at rate of 0.50, and also managed to reign in Italian states before 1490.

I have revoked around 1550 and made Renovatio 10 years before end game ;) Easier to conquer with vassal swarm than as one state.

Ah so that pic is basically renovatio when the world can not stand up to you anymore like i told you OP.
Whom did you start as? prussia route?

[Erich von Manstein]

Originally posted by TheRedComet:

Originally posted by Fritzl:

This is my HRE.

Ironman game, normal difficulty.

https://pasteboard.co/ymvAr0oI.png

I had Erb before religious leagues, enabling me to gather IA at rate of 0.50, and also managed to reign in Italian states before 1490.

I have revoked around 1550 and made Renovatio 10 years before end game ;) Easier to conquer with vassal swarm than as one state.

Ah so that pic is basically renovatio when the world can not stand up to you anymore like i told you OP.
Whom did you start as? prussia route?

Austria of course. It is a bit off topic because he asked how to do it with TO. But as TO you simply cant play HRE to its full potential, especially in regard to Italian states.

You just need to reign Italia in before 1490 in order to fast revoke. Later than that, you will have small HRE.

If I wanted to TO, Id much rather go for forming Germany than HRE.

[Rimuru]

Originally posted by Fritzl:

If I wanted to TO, Id much rather go for forming Germany than HRE.

Why germany? In eu3 to my best memory that was the best course of action or forming the HRE actually was not a malus to your income/etc. eu4 germany with prussian government atm seems ok but easily better off as another german prince for malleable government forms.

Even if you ignore militarization prussia-germany is not bad just strangely underwhelming. (I would expect militarism to go up for a prussia based germany till as they did historically explode from/with it after/during ww1).

[TylerofQueens]

Thanks! I know its not ideal going from TO to HRE but I wnated to play a sort of alternate history. Just an update, for me its 1506 and I'm an elector. Just waiting for the reformation to become Prussia. I might also be able to colonize soon, I managed to snag parts of Dennmark and Iceland.