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because the game IS whole already. It's been whole since day 1.
Extras are extras, especially when several of those are outright game cancer and shoudl be removed entirely from existence, not put into the base game.
If I could downvote this thread I would. This whine and gripe of the OP has been made time and again and the right responses are always the same. The right response is that the DLC's are optional. No one is forcing anyone to purchase the DLC's or content packs.
Here's the thing, if the dev's didn't publish dlc content for the game then what you'd end up with is new versions of the game being released every year or two or three and you'd be wanting those new versions of the game and those new versions of the game would cost you $50 or $60 or so. If you purchased those new versions of the game you'd ultimately spend the same amount or more for the same content you are purchasing in the DLC's. There would be no more patches or free content. The old versions of the game would be abandoned by the devs.
Gamer entitlement is hilarious.
My monthly Netflix subscription costs more than a DLC. I get more value out of the DLC though.
It won't work.
Because it just means EU4 immediately dies and EU5 begins development.
Since that's how this model works.
The game will evolving for as long as:
A. The engine can continue to support it without a complete rewrite.
B. There are Meaningful ideas and suggestions to refine and enhance the experience.
C. People continue to fund the development.
Big expansions aren't profitable..
The average install base for an expansion is less than half of the install base of the base game. And every expansion after continues to drop in install base, despite costing the same to develop.
That's why they also fall off in price so quickly and bundle up into Gold Editions or Complete editions, to continue scrapping the bottom of the barrel since almost everyone who is going buy a game, will buy it in the first year, after which support dwindles due to raising maintence vs the shrinking pool of new buys, with the 2-3 expansions barely covering their own costs and the costs of post-release support for a couple years.
That's why most games die after about 2-3 expansions. You need a new base game to be profitable in that model.
The paradox model instead makes DLCs you don't need and expands various niches of play to allow you to customize the game into your own personalized experience.
The Base game is the complete experience. But it's the One-size fits all experience.
If you want a different game, you pay for it, since that's outside the scope of the Core Gameplay.
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As mentioned in another post, Paradox isn't milking ♥♥♥♥.
You are saving 200 dollars vs the model you apparently want them to use and force on everyone else. And that is WITHOUT buying anything on sale.
Cause keep in mind....without the current dlc model.
NONE of the dlcs in your "mandatory base game" list would EXIST.
EU4 would've ended around 1.6 or 1.7.
And EU5 began.
Around 1.18, EU5 would've ended and EU6 began.
That's 80 extra dollars you're wanting us to pay for what we already got for free.
And we'd spend about the same on expansions as we do now, except in your model we'll inevitably be re-buying content per generation as expansions idea get re-hashed and re-imagined, since just as now, the base game needs to be as broad as possible to attract players of all types and styles.
Where as in the current, existing base mechanics are always in the free patch.
The dlc content is ALWAYS new content, and it's heavily themed towards specializing a specific playstyle or region.
The base game does everything, everywhere, but if you only play 1 region or one style of play, and ignore the remain 4/5th of the game, you will probably run out of content eventually, since the base game isn't made for that.
But with 1-2 dlcs purchases you can have the game you desire if you want everything super specialized. Which falls in line with your Base + 2 idea.
If you DO want more and more and more (the dlc model was literally created because of people demanding more and more expansions during the 3rd generation paradox games but it wasn't fiancially viable to keep making big expansions for what was essentially several niche groups of the player base all wanting different stuff), then you get your monies worth by buying everything, since because you use all of it regularly, it's adding hundreds of additionals hours of play per DLC beyond the thousands that the base game has without a extra purchase.
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The only time the dlcs are overpriced, is if you're buying dlcs you don't actually want or use. Since then they aren't adding anything to your game. You're just spending money for the sake of spending money.
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Mare Nostrum gets a bad rap as being overpriced, because people don't use 90% of it and should've never bought it if that was the case.
It's a regional pack focused around the mediterrian and features a robust line of proxy war mechanics, since that was a BIG deal during all the in-fighting between the Italian city states as they fought as much indirectly as directly.
It's a great addition as well to further enhancing Tall play, even if you aren't playing around North Africa or Italy, by giving you a bunch of new options to hinder opponents with several different flavors of passsive/active, indirect/direct.
It's one of the best overall expansions Paradox has actually released.
since you didn't mention, what is the price you would expect for the new base game?
i've looked at their year-end statements before, they are not listed as non-profit business, and their yearly profit for the last couple years has been less than 30 million USD; not exactly greedy. the developers working on eu4 deserve to be paid continually, not just once. that dirty money they bring in is also being used to develop new games, that is also not free.
it seems you (and others who claim the same) would rather the dlc stop, and in turn the game die, than to have dlc released. i just cant understand that. while I have never been in your presence while purchasing games and/or dlc, i can only assume that there is not a person holding a firearm to your head forcing you to purchase it. if you do purchase any, it is becasue you desire the improvements and features that come with it.
if it really is that big of an issue for you, simply move on with your life. it really is that simple.