Getting Lion of the North Achievement?

[Colorjuice14]

Any tips for getting it and/or Sweden is not OP reliably as well as general reccomended idea groups?

[bri]

Push Renaissance so you get a tech advantage on Denmark, get independent, blob out all over Scandinavia and Russia, backstab PLC, lead protestants to a dominating victory in the League War (allying Ottos and France in mutual Austria hatred will usually bring them in on the protestant side and be enough firepower to win it. Spend the war peacing out anyone you can that has an army left, if they have no army and are occupied keep them around for war score. Don't be an idiot like I was and challenge a succession with someone in your faction (hence why I have Sweden is not Overpowered but not Lion of the North) :/

The usual idea groups are all good for you, no need for exploration, influence if you want to vassal feed, quality, offensive, defensive, admin, humanist or religious, trade or econ if you are dieing for cash...

[tonypa]

I have not found reliable way to pop Lion of the North since there is no actual way I know of to be leader of lead the Protestant League. The first elector to convert Protestant is always League leader and that has never changed in any of my games.

[KannibalKing]

you need to be protestant and you need the biggest army to become the leader.
quantity is not a bad idea to get more chance to become the leader.

[Raider Deci]

Just what the others have said, build up your strenght until the leage is created and join. With a decently big army you should be the leader, atleast until electorates join (they are a little bit slow on that) so try to declare war as soon as possible. Of course it depends a little bit on who is on the protestant side.


I agree that it is a bit tricky. Finally took it in my latest Swe-run, I immediatly followed up with declaring war on the new emperor and 2 small electors to get ruina imperii allowing me to steamroll the northern german coast :)

[Tulduil Iphukiir]

I got it in my current game, though it was one of the the hardest wars I ever fought:

I timed another Russia war wrong and the Leagues started while I was at war. I was winning but wanted a decisive victory to secure my eastern front forever. That worked (I deliberately let Russia form and everytime the truce ran out I pushed my border east, thanks to the newly colonized Siberian frontier provinces, I think in total 10 Deus Vults and one Imperialism between Moscow and the Pacific), but otherwise it was a mistake:
By the time I finished the war Austria's allies had already entered the Catholic side: Poland, Lithuania (no PU), GB (was my ally for many years), Aragon (broke free from PU and crushed Castile) and half the HRE minors.

The Protestant side: Brandenburg (leader), the other half of HRE minors, and my Sweden (with PU over Bohemia).
As soon as I joined I became the League leader as I was easily the strongest nation in it.
To make matters worse, my rival Ottomans then joined the Catholics.

Only neutral Great Power: France. I finally got them as ally (same three rivals: Ottomans, Austria, England) and got the opinion high enough that they finally joined the protestants.
While I waited, my Russia truce ran out and he also joined the Catholics.

I declared and after many many years, battles and dead soldiers those Catholics surrendered to Swedish Steel.
Soldier count at start of war: c.700,000, total casualties c.1,500,000.

Fun aftermath of the war:
- I made GB release Mann. guaranteed and subsidized him for fun. After he started colonizing I force-vassalized him.
- Austria got crippled so much that Ottomans later conquered all of Hungary and Eastern Austria (exect Vienna)
- Aragon recovered and was later one province (Tlemcen Granada) away from forming Spain and conquered much of Italy, Tunesia and Greece
- Six Electors converted to Protestant (including my PU), so I wasn't elected Emperor after the war (not member + controls Elector)
- I finally got enough Trade power in Lübeck (took Hamburg and Lübeck in the war) to move my Trade Capital there and had no loans since
- Shortly after the war I got a Brandenburg PU, which after integration (and with provinces taken in the war) granted me Sweden is not OP, my other goal for this campaign.

However, I had fun and played on, around 1650 I became Emperor and decided to "casually" continue.
Now it is 1770 and I think Revolutionary Sweden can WC (but probably not one tag, I don't want to annex my non-HRE marches Smolensk and Nepal. Also I have no interest in passing the final HRE reform (already have the achievement), I started the game as Sweden and want to end it as Sweden.

[Fikun]

you need to be protestant and you need the biggest army to become the leader.
quantity is not a bad idea to get more chance to become the leader.

[Danutzian]

I became leader of the Protestant League as soon as I joined the Protestant side.
Bohemia was leader of the Catholic League.
Prior to the League event triggering I was allied to Bohemia.
When the League triggered, Bohemia rivaled me. I chose to break the marriage.
I did not wait for the truce to end. Protestants were twice as many as the catholics so I decided to start the war while I had the advantage.
After 100% Bohemia and ending the war, the achievement did not trigger.
Any of you guys know why I was not able to get the achievement?
I feel all the requirements were satisfied so I am a bit upset at loosing all this time for nothing :))

[tonypa]

Originally posted by Danutzian:

I became leader of the Protestant League as soon as I joined the Protestant side.
Bohemia was leader of the Catholic League.
Prior to the League event triggering I was allied to Bohemia.
When the League triggered, Bohemia rivaled me. I chose to break the marriage.
I did not wait for the truce to end. Protestants were twice as many as the catholics so I decided to start the war while I had the advantage.
After 100% Bohemia and ending the war, the achievement did not trigger.
Any of you guys know why I was not able to get the achievement?
I feel all the requirements were satisfied so I am a bit upset at loosing all this time for nothing :))

This could be obvious, but are you playing as Sweden?

Are your achievements enabled in top right corner of game? If yes, is Lion of the North still listed there?

[CyPunk]

Join the League early... I joined, was listed as League leader, but same month the previous League leader declared the war ... and I got nothing :-( Bug obviously, so best to avoid it and join the League early so your joining is not the determining factor that makes the League strong enough to declare.

[Danutzian]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Originally posted by Danutzian:

I became leader of the Protestant League as soon as I joined the Protestant side.
Bohemia was leader of the Catholic League.
Prior to the League event triggering I was allied to Bohemia.
When the League triggered, Bohemia rivaled me. I chose to break the marriage.
I did not wait for the truce to end. Protestants were twice as many as the catholics so I decided to start the war while I had the advantage.
After 100% Bohemia and ending the war, the achievement did not trigger.
Any of you guys know why I was not able to get the achievement?
I feel all the requirements were satisfied so I am a bit upset at loosing all this time for nothing :))

This could be obvious, but are you playing as Sweden?

Are your achievements enabled in top right corner of game? If yes, is Lion of the North still listed there?

I was playing as Sweden.
I always play in IronMan Mode.
I did not get the achievement.

[Tulduil Iphukiir]

Is the achievement (or any other achievement for that matter) listed in the ingame achievement overview (icon on the top right).
If that overview is disabled or no achievements are listed you did not fulfil the "starting conditions" (start 11.11.1444, Historical Lucky Nations etc)

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by Danutzian:

I became leader of the Protestant League as soon as I joined the Protestant side.
Bohemia was leader of the Catholic League.
Prior to the League event triggering I was allied to Bohemia.
When the League triggered, Bohemia rivaled me. I chose to break the marriage.
I did not wait for the truce to end. Protestants were twice as many as the catholics so I decided to start the war while I had the advantage.
After 100% Bohemia and ending the war, the achievement did not trigger.
Any of you guys know why I was not able to get the achievement?
I feel all the requirements were satisfied so I am a bit upset at loosing all this time for nothing :))

How did you end the war? You need to choose the treaty that enforces the protestant religion on the HRE. Just winning isn't enough, you need that as part of the peace terms too.

Also, *losing