Cradle of Civilization worth it and overall state of game

[GoldenTalon]

Had CoC on my wish list and it just popped up. Is it worthwhile? What does it really do?

Also, what't the general state of the game now. It's been a year since I played and last game I was disappointed with how much money was awash in the game. I was able to support an all merc army and it was really boring. Has this been fixed?

[CMDR Herne]

They did nerf the the money somewhat in patch 1.25 (England patch) though later in the game it's still easy to make loads of money. I think Paradox have been making further money sinks in the subsequent patchs. I'm still on 1,25

As for Cradle it's ok as an expansion if you are play in the middle east alot. Otherwise it's not really much use outside that area..Drilling I don't really use that much..
Read the description in the wiki
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Downloadable_content

[tonypa]

Cradle of Civilization is worth for playing around Middle East. Mamluks, Persia, Timmy, smaller Anatolian countries, even Ottos. These countries get small boost.

For every nation in the world it adds Army Professionalism. Basically, if you are not in the war, and not using your armies to suppress rebels, and not using mercs, and have enough money to pay full maintenance, you can drill each of your armies with General.

(there are a lot of IFs in this, you will not manage to drill your armies as often as you may think, and same time AI is constantly drilling their armies so they are somewhat stronger you may expect)

Once Drilled to max (which will take quite a long time), the unit has bonuses:
+10% Shock damage
+10% Fire damage
−10% Fire damage received
−10% Shock damage received
+20% Movement speed

Now if you go into war with that army, the Drill value will start to drop pretty fast so it is most useful for quick wars. All your new units have 0 drill, and combining 2 armies averages the combined drill value.

The most useful feature from drilling is actually random chance of General to gain +1 boost.

Also, while drilling, you will improve your country overall professionalism level, which when maxed gives:
+10% Shock damage dealt
+10% Fire damage dealt
+20% Siege ability

It takes several centuries to max this and every 20% you unlock extra bonus.

Notice that mercs can not be drilled and hiring mercs lowers country professionalism while higher professionalism also increases merc cost. So do not drill if you use mercs.

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Army#Army_professionalism

[Psychotic Fury]

If u plan on playing mamluks you kind of need it. Well, i stopped playing near late game due to 25 legitimacy rulers every time. (Can trigger a disaster).

[Vuyek]

"Had CoC on my wish list "

Ohhhhhh, bby

"and it just popped up"

Come on, tell us the rest of the story!!!!11

[Aelfric]

They want people to do nothing all game. Sucks if your x5 speed is not that fast. Maybe do a war every 100 years.

[GoldenTalon]

Not sure it's worth it. Still waiting for excess money issue to get fixed

[mystafyi]

Originally posted by too fiery:

They want people to do nothing all game. Sucks if your x5 speed is not that fast. Maybe do a war every 100 years.

Game speed is totally dependant on your cpu speed.