Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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Recce Nov 24, 2018 @ 2:09pm
Swedish economic problems
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198153702308/screenshots/
Hey I am struggling to generate decent income, despite having 60%+ trade power in the Baltic. I went for economic, defensive and exploration and initially I made like 7,5 ducats with full army maintenance in the early 1500's, but I increased my army size and I also have 2 colonists, which decreased my income. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks
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brian_va Nov 24, 2018 @ 2:43pm 
Push into Lubeck trade node, move trade port/capital and steer from Baltic and north sea to there. Depending on where you colonized, pushing from there to Lubeck can be worth looking into as well.
Jihadi Jesus Nov 24, 2018 @ 2:58pm 
Also how are your estates. Sweden starts with most of there land in control of the nobility. You should slowly remove them from all but the grain and naval supply provinces.
fingerneun Nov 24, 2018 @ 8:04pm 
You could think about deleting some forts.
Recce Nov 24, 2018 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by jesus was a communist:
Also how are your estates. Sweden starts with most of there land in control of the nobility. You should slowly remove them from all but the grain and naval supply provinces.
I gave a bunch of estuaries and major trade cities to the Burghers so they have an influence in the 70's. The clergy and nobles are also quite powerful.
Tasty Bunny Nov 24, 2018 @ 9:54pm 
1. raise your stability to 1, or 2.

2. move your trade capital to lubeck. And see if minor countries there willing to trade-trasfer to you.

3. You have some useless fort.

4. lower your freagging inflation. it actually jumpscared me when I clicked your screenshot

5. Slide off your fight curruption expense. you don't need to pay for this now, at such small rate. just rely on passive reduction from tech and stability.

6. generally when money is short, just slide down army maintenance to zero, and raise up right before war.
Molybdane Nov 24, 2018 @ 11:19pm 
All has been said, but for your colonists. Colonists are quite expensive and make little in return as far as I can tell, unless you send a merchant to collect it.
FRITZ HABER Nov 25, 2018 @ 1:10am 
delete fort in kalmar and viborg, revoke dalaskogen from nobility, set decrease autonomy edict, then bank your diplo and admin point to wait for rennaisance, then improve dalaskogen until youu get renaisance there, just remember to minmaxing dev cost by estates and edict
FRITZ HABER Nov 25, 2018 @ 1:11am 
something i just learnt in my past 1k hours, early game admin and diplo tech doesnt really matter ( in term of survivability and expansion.)
Castille Nov 25, 2018 @ 2:20am 
1. If you got merc, delete them, replace with regular units.
2. Lower your army maintenance, you are not at war.
3. Lower your inflation, you got the admin for it.
4. Delete some forts, and if not. Mothball them
5. Max out "root out corruption" i know it won't help your economy, but you should always have it at maxed.
6. If you are having major money problems, i'm guessing you could sack an advisor. But that is most likely not the best way.
7. Invest your surplus in building workshops
8. Seems like you can state some provinces, do that, you can always de-state em later if you don't want em.

I don't really think you have moneyproblems. Your economy is for war right now. You just need to lower army mainteance and mothball forts. Use the surplus to invest in workshops and you will most likely have a stronger economy for the coming wars.

Oh and also. You don't have any loans, you are in a great position. You should not be concerned about money right now, you should be focused on expansion. Having a couple of loans is not the end of the world.
Last edited by Castille; Nov 25, 2018 @ 9:59am
Grugg Nov 25, 2018 @ 6:06am 
Everything that Castille said but also develop the province of Bergslagen and get that sweet production income.
FRITZ HABER Nov 25, 2018 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by ZZZXXman:
Everything that Castille said but also develop the province of Bergslagen and get that sweet production income.
what did bergslagen produce?
FRITZ HABER Nov 25, 2018 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by Castille:
1. If you got merc, delete them, replace with regular units.
2. Lower your army maintenance, you are not at war.
3. Lower your inflation, you got the admin for it.
4. Delete some forts, and if not. Mothball them
5. Max out "root out corruption" i know it won't help your economy, but you should always have it at maxed.
6. If you are having major money problems, i'm guessing you could sack an advisor. But that is most likely not the best way.
7. Invest your surplus in building workshops
8. Seems like you can state some provinces, do that, you can always de-state em later if you don't want em.

I don't really think you have moneyproblems. Your economy is for war right now. You just need to lower army mainteance and mothball forts. Use the surplus to invest in workshops and you will most likely have a stronger economy for the coming wars.

Oh and also. You don't have any loans, you are in a great position. You should not be concerned about money right now, you should be focused on expansion. Having a couple of loans is the end of the world.
wrong, in my italy campaign, year 1550 got 1k dev and currently at war with austria for personal union, who have 500ish dev, in the end i got whooping 8k debt, so i just declare bankruptcy, wait for 5 years /10years i forgot which one ends bankruptcy, and then conquer again xD. remove your mindset of loan is bad, loan is good, if you gaining something. especially in sweeden case, you shouldn't limit monetary to conquest for denmark/ lubeck node, in the end, you gain more than you lose
Tulduil Iphukiir Nov 25, 2018 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by ZZZXXman:
Everything that Castille said but also develop the province of Bergslagen and get that sweet production income.

* Dalaskogen, there is a reason why the stereotype Swedish house is red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falu_red
brian_va Nov 25, 2018 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Regimon:
Originally posted by Castille:
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wrong, in my italy campaign, year 1550 got 1k dev and currently at war with austria for personal union, who have 500ish dev, in the end i got whooping 8k debt, so i just declare bankruptcy, wait for 5 years /10years i forgot which one ends bankruptcy, and then conquer again xD. remove your mindset of loan is bad, loan is good, if you gaining something. especially in sweeden case, you shouldn't limit monetary to conquest for denmark/ lubeck node, in the end, you gain more than you lose

going bankrupt has some pretty serious drawbacks
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Economy#Bankruptcy

probably not something a newer player should consider plan A
Tulduil Iphukiir Nov 25, 2018 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by brian_va:

going bankrupt has some pretty serious drawbacks
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Economy#Bankruptcy

probably not something a newer player should consider plan A

This.

Going bankrupt may be a viable strategy in certain situations but because of its brawbacks a new/inexperienced player should rarely consider it.
If you know what you are doing it is OK but just clicking the button because thinking it is a magical solution to all financial problems will certainly do much more harm then good or even completely destroy your nation.
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