Europa Universalis IV

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Jojojay Oct 31, 2018 @ 4:27pm
trade company: capital or trade capital?
i am playing as yemen. i managed to nab some land in india using the splendor idea that lets me make claims bordering claims. i am thus able to steer trade from india into the gulf of aden, my home trade node. i would like to place trade companies in india to get the less unrest, more merchants, etc buffs that they provide. however, i am unable to make trade companies on the same continent as me. (kinda silly but whatevs.) i can, however, move my capital over to some land in africa (still in the gulf of aden trade node) that i grabbed from adal. however, i am not sure whether i need to move my capital or my trade capital here in order to have africa considered as my home continent for trade company purposes. i could try trial and error, but that would waste monarch power, and i am currently trying to save my monarch power so that i can reform to a republic. does anybody know which one i need to move?
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Damphair Oct 31, 2018 @ 5:03pm 
It won't work, Africa also has provinces belonging to trade companies. You have to get your capital in Europe, it's the only way.

But still don't take this as a bad sign, you can still core your lands in India. And most things on the coast should give you high development, meaning bigger manpower base and taxes. Give the provinces with high trade power to your merchants guild, you'll still be swimming in cash.
Last edited by Damphair; Oct 31, 2018 @ 5:04pm
Mr.M Oct 31, 2018 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Draglord:
It won't work, Africa also has provinces belonging to trade companies. You have to get your capital in Europe, it's the only way.

But still don't take this as a bad sign, you can still core your lands in India. And most things on the coast should give you high development, meaning bigger manpower base and taxes. Give the provinces with high trade power to your merchants guild, you'll still be swimming in cash.

Nah, Asia and Africa are different continents.

ANY nation can make trade companies in other continents than the one where their capital is - just that trade companies only exist in Africa and Asia.

Therefore Africa can make TCs in Asia and vice versa.
Damphair Oct 31, 2018 @ 5:28pm 
Yes sorry, I remembered it diffrent.
Jojojay Oct 31, 2018 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by MrMonokel2000:
Originally posted by Draglord:
It won't work, Africa also has provinces belonging to trade companies. You have to get your capital in Europe, it's the only way.

But still don't take this as a bad sign, you can still core your lands in India. And most things on the coast should give you high development, meaning bigger manpower base and taxes. Give the provinces with high trade power to your merchants guild, you'll still be swimming in cash.

Nah, Asia and Africa are different continents.

ANY nation can make trade companies in other continents than the one where their capital is - just that trade companies only exist in Africa and Asia.

Therefore Africa can make TCs in Asia and vice versa.
yes. but do i need to move my capital or my trade capital to africa?
Mr.M Oct 31, 2018 @ 8:02pm 
Capital.
Fellini_Fiend Nov 1, 2018 @ 7:41am 
Move it into Zanzibar. Lots of money to be made there believe me. Though with the changes to trade node steering it no longer gets the trade from Malacca it doesn’t have as much wealth but it still quite wealthy if you control all of the node and the nodes leading up to it.

I moved my capital to the province of Kilwa once I finished diplo annexing Kilwa as my vassal because that province had a lot more development than my capital which meant no extra cost to move capitals. Most of my states are just in Africa but the rest of my land are in trade companies in all of India which gives me so much money.

Also typically when you move your capital the trade capital moves there as well although that’s not always the case for whatever reason, still not sure why that doesn’t always happen for me. So if you can do it all with only one click instead of moving a capital to a particular place like Bermuda, for example to not have colonial nations, but want to collect trade in the English Channel then that’s two separate clicks.

Moving capitals and places to collect trade in is something you need to put thought into so remember that if you want to do it in one or two decisions.
salatrin Nov 1, 2018 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Fellini_Fiend87:
Move it into Zanzibar. Lots of money to be made there believe me. Though with the changes to trade node steering it no longer gets the trade from Malacca it doesn’t have as much wealth but it still quite wealthy if you control all of the node and the nodes leading up to it.

I moved my capital to the province of Kilwa once I finished diplo annexing Kilwa as my vassal because that province had a lot more development than my capital which meant no extra cost to move capitals. Most of my states are just in Africa but the rest of my land are in trade companies in all of India which gives me so much money.

Also typically when you move your capital the trade capital moves there as well although that’s not always the case for whatever reason, still not sure why that doesn’t always happen for me. So if you can do it all with only one click instead of moving a capital to a particular place like Bermuda, for example to not have colonial nations, but want to collect trade in the English Channel then that’s two separate clicks.

Moving capitals and places to collect trade in is something you need to put thought into so remember that if you want to do it in one or two decisions.

As far as i know, your two capitals will always move together until you split them up first by moving your trade capital away from your true capital.

Once you move your trade capital away from your true capital, then you can change your true capital as much as you wish without your trade capital being affected.

But until you move your trade capital away from your true capital seperately, they will both always move together, even when using decisions to move your capital, or your capital being changed by other means(like when you form the Mughals, your capital moves to Delhi and if you havent split up your two capitals yet, they both move together, which can cause you to lose lots of trade money if you forget to move your merchants around after forming the Mughals for example)

Using Mughals as an example to summarize, if you are the Timurids and your trade and true capital is Herat in the persia node, formiing the Mughals cause BOTH capitals to move to Dehli since both capitals are linked.

But then if your Transoxiana and your true and trade capital is Samarkand and you then move your trade capital to Herat splitting it from your true capital, then when you form the Mughals, your true capital moves to Dehli, but your trade capital remains in Herat(Persian node)
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