Is this game basically like Stellaris?

[Cyber_Wizard]

Like in the whole sense of expanding and what knot.

[GamingToFailure]

stellaris is geographically random. The other games like EU4, CK2, Hoi, are actually pretty geographically correct. i personally like this game better, though i have to admit i own most dlc's that expand gameplay.

[tonypa]

EU4 always uses exactly same map with countries in exactly same positions (you can create random new world with proper DLC and you can start the game at later year with different setup). At the start of the game you are able to see only part of the world, that is known to your area, for example as European you know europe and parts of Middle east but everything else is hidden. As the game progresses and nations explore more, the world becomes slowly visible, but it is likely to play to the end date while still having some provinces unexplored.

Since you always start with exact same setup, it becomes more of chessplay where you know your layout and you try to find best possible solution to expand and conquer. While the locations and development of countries remains same there is huge number of randomness that will change each game. Relations between countries will change, in one game they are friends and in next game they hate each other. Random events can be both benefitial and problematic to you and any otther country. Rulers have random stats so one country could get upper hand just because it got divine ruler while other country was cursed with Babbling Buffoon (actual ruler personality in the game).

There are countries in EU4 that usually expand and become major powers (Ottos, France, Russia) and others that get usually conquered by stronger neighbours. But again, sometimes big ones struggle and fall while unexpected rivals rise.

[Wolf]

I don't believe we can really compare them, except if you are very broad.

They're only the same if you look at it very broadly, you want to expand your power, you can do it through a tall or wide play-style.

You conduct war by attacking enemy units and occupying their territories.

You can conduct diplomacy with other nations, though some things might predispose them to hate or love you.

You play with AIs, which means each playthrought is different.

You can get a very big name on the map.


But, in the end, if you looked at the mechanics behind all of those things, nothing would be the same, simply because they're two very distinct game, and they are not even from the same genre (Stellaris is a 4X like the Civ series, while EU4 is a Grand Stategy Game.)

[Cyber_Wizard]

I will say, I am starting to love eu4 more now. there's soo many...functions! Guess its time to look up some tutorials.

But it does have a more "your nation kind of deal," instead of the family thing from ck2.