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Should I privateer or protect trade? (Solved)
I have some spare light ships and privateering in Genova as Castille 1444 gives more money than protecting trade in Safi. However, I don't know how much defence Genova has against privateers. In theory, a single heavy ship gives 99.something% against pirates, so to me, it looks useless to privateer in any case (save when the enemy node doesn't have a single ship hunting pirates)

On top of that, aside from the money that comes from looting in economic pannel, I can't have any feedback regarding how many ships and cannons are hunting pirates (my ships). Should I expect a steady income like protecting trade, or is it much more variable since a single ship hunting pirates ruins the purpose of privateering?

(Solved: I forgot that I could check the balance of forces preventing piracy in a node vs the privateers. I wish I could do the same for coastal raiders)
Last edited by Sir Prometeus; Aug 20, 2018 @ 2:10pm
Originally posted by Banberg:
Privateer is most likely not worth it. At least not early game.

From the wiki: If the total number of guns from the hunting fleet is greater than twice the total number of guns from pirating fleet, the pirating efficiency is reduced by 99%.

1 Barque has 13 Cannons. The early Carrack has 40.

You should also consider that there are relation penalty up to -100 (-1 per Month) for all nations in the genoa node with a trade share of 15% or more. Nations with 20% gain a CB against you.

This could potentially complicate the iberian wedding event.
If you're unable to raise the relations with Aragon and Naples fast enough, you will lose both PU's.
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Banberg Aug 20, 2018 @ 2:09pm 
Privateer is most likely not worth it. At least not early game.

From the wiki: If the total number of guns from the hunting fleet is greater than twice the total number of guns from pirating fleet, the pirating efficiency is reduced by 99%.

1 Barque has 13 Cannons. The early Carrack has 40.

You should also consider that there are relation penalty up to -100 (-1 per Month) for all nations in the genoa node with a trade share of 15% or more. Nations with 20% gain a CB against you.

This could potentially complicate the iberian wedding event.
If you're unable to raise the relations with Aragon and Naples fast enough, you will lose both PU's.
Sir Prometeus Aug 20, 2018 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Banberg:
Privateer is most likely not worth it. At least not early game.

From the wiki: If the total number of guns from the hunting fleet is greater than twice the total number of guns from pirating fleet, the pirating efficiency is reduced by 99%.

1 Barque has 13 Cannons. The early Carrack has 40.

You should also consider that there are relation penalty up to -100 (-1 per Month) for all nations in the genoa node with a trade share of 15% or more. Nations with 20% gain a CB against you.

This could potentially complicate the iberian wedding event.
If you're unable to raise the relations with Aragon and Naples fast enough, you will lose both PU's.

Well, Aragon started as my rival and I don't know how to convince them to stop being it. In my last game I even tried to improve relations as much as I could sending a diplomat, but they maintained the rival status.
Banberg Aug 20, 2018 @ 2:26pm 
Early game Aragon is always a rival for Castille, there is nothing you can do.
Nevertheless you should improve relations with them. Try to avoid a war.

There is an event called the iberian wedding in the game.
Prerequisites are:

Year between 1450 and 1530

The rulers of Castille and Aragon have a different gender.
or
Aragon has a regency and is controlled by the AI. (IF you play as Castille)

This event will give you Aragon and potentially Naples as Personal Unions.
At Admin Tech 10 there is decision to then intergrate Aragon and form Spain.
Sir Prometeus Aug 20, 2018 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Banberg:
Early game Aragon is always a rival for Castille, there is nothing you can do.
Nevertheless you should improve relations with them. Try to avoid a war.

There is an event called the iberian wedding in the game.
Prerequisites are:

Year between 1450 and 1530

The rulers of Castille and Aragon have a different gender.
or
Aragon has a regency and is controlled by the AI. (IF you play as Castille)

This event will give you Aragon and potentially Naples as Personal Unions.
At Admin Tech 10 there is decision to then intergrate Aragon and form Spain.

That's a difficult possibility. Our families are basically a sausage party, and their heir is 48. So unless both the father and the son die so, perhaps, I can get a regency there, there's nothing I can do.
Banberg Aug 20, 2018 @ 3:13pm 
48 is old for an heir. Could die tomorrow. As said before the only thing that matters is different gender. Its not important who's ruler is female.

There is of course always the possibility of the event for Isabella of Castille (Free DLC Woman in History required). Can trigger between 1450 up to 1504. Prerequisites are: Male ruler, no heir.

On the other hand if you have the Rights of Man DLC you can simply disinherit your heir/s until you get the desired gender for an heir.
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