Center of Reformation and Enforce Religion on Vassals

[aplecake]

Hey guys, currently in ironman as Austria.
I had to attack Lübeck trade league to get rid of a nasty center of reformation in Hamburg.
However, the center managed to convert a OPM province who is in the same war.

Now i have to decide to peace him out or to take him. Since he is still catholic as statereligion i cant enforce religion on him yet. But he will flip to protestant for sure once he leaves the war, creating another possible nasty Center of Reformation.

My question: Does the "Force Religion" from the vassal context menu convert the capital of the vassal in an instant like the peace deal option "Force Religion" or does it only change the state religion to my own?

Dont want to loose a prince ...so if i could vassalize him, wait for the flip to protestant and the center and then just convert him via force religion as his overlord.. destroying the center in the process... and then set him free again...that would be great!

[Psychotic Fury]

The easiest (unless you have alot of AE already) is to simply annex the OPM convert the province then release/return the province. You can do this on centers of reformation too. Depending on their allies you could declare on a ally to drag the opm bk in. Did that a few times on my hre run.

Im not sure about the vassals enforce religion, i dont think it converts a province. I havnt checked in awhile. But you can try then alt f4 if it doesnt lol.

Personally i would annex them and convert it myself. Though you could also vassalise, then just wait till they flip and enforce for the +50% lib desire. But as i said im unsure if it will work.


As a added note, centers of reformation convert based on the province owners missionary strength. So the more missionary strength you have the quicker your provinces will turn. (From what i have seen in my games anyway).

[aplecake]

Originally posted by Psychotic Fury:

Though you could also vassalise, then just wait till they flip and enforce for the +50% lib desire. But as i said im unsure if it will work.

That was exactly my thought, since peacing him out would get me 5 years of truce... if he spawns a center thats bad then. I went with annexing.. better safe then sorry

[Psychotic Fury]

Yep good stuff. Just hope they dont keep poppin up like in my game lol. Man that was a handful haha.

[TEH BARBARIAN HERD]

You should take the province. I have played multiple hre playthroughs and this sounds like an annoyance you are better to skip. You are right that you cant force religion unless they convert but vassalizing them and forcing religion wont work either as the province has zealotry and cant be converted for 30 years. Pretty much means you would have a vassal that spawns rebels with a CoR that they cant convert. Annexing will stop the CoR

[aplecake]

Zealotry is annoying right, but he is a OPM. If "Force Religion" in the Vassal Context works the same as the "Force Religion" in a peace treaty it wouldn't matter, since the state religion and the capital province flip back to catholic in an instant without checking missionary strenght. But this is the real question here: Are both "Force Religion" working the same way?

[shoki]

I'm not 100% sure but iirc force religion in peace deal converts capital + state religion instantly while the vassal interaction only converts the state religion, so he'll still sit on his CoR.