How Do You Form Yuan With Ming?

[The Shadow Rose]

Saw it was a thing from forming shan then yuan and taking specific provinces and feeding the rest to vassals but i have no clue how to do it so i just wondered if anyone else knew. Might try manchu though since im getting tired of trying as a hoard and having a very short window before im screwed.

[Guomindang]

Just take the required provinces and culture shift into Shan. After that you take the provinces required for Yuan and culture shift again, which will enable you to take the decision.

[Infinity]

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Yuan
If you start as ming you need to form something that is not Manchu, Mughals or Qing. Shan is a good example.
Need to culture shift to altaic and hold the required provinces.

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by Guomindang:

Just take the required provinces and culture shift into Shan. After that you take the provinces required for Yuan and culture shift again, which will enable you to take the decision.

Originally posted by Infinty:

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Yuan
If you start as ming you need to form something that is not Manchu, Mughals or Qing. Shan is a good example.
Need to culture shift to altaic and hold the required provinces.

Doesnt culture shifting require 50% of your entire development to be in that culture? How the ♥♥♥♥ does someone make a single culture in ming worth half of the entire empire?

[Tulduil Iphukiir]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Originally posted by Guomindang:

Just take the required provinces and culture shift into Shan. After that you take the provinces required for Yuan and culture shift again, which will enable you to take the decision.

Originally posted by Infinty:

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Yuan
If you start as ming you need to form something that is not Manchu, Mughals or Qing. Shan is a good example.
Need to culture shift to altaic and hold the required provinces.

Doesnt culture shifting require 50% of your entire development to be in that culture? How the ♥♥♥♥ does someone make a single culture in ming worth half of the entire empire?

50% of your entire "stated" development. So state only areas with the desired culture and unstate everything else.

If you have only one area stated with only one culture present this culture has 100% representation. It does not matter how many other provinces with different cultures you have.

[Fellini_Fiend]

My personal favorite sequence to do is Ming-Mughals-Manchu-Qing-Shan-Yuan. That was fun. But that was just shifting for the he’ll of it also allowed me to get the Qing as emperor of China achievement in a single campaign. It was a world conquest attempt that I failed at in the late game because I never convert any land due to harmonization but when you’ve got 200-300% overextension it doesn’t matter if you have full Humanist ideas those rebels will wreck you.

You can cut out Qing though and you can cut out Mughals as well, I just used Mughals to get the claims on all of India which did eventually go away once I tag switched from them but we’re very useful for a while after forming Yuan. And don’t worry about the coring you will have to redo on all of China, when you’re Yuan you will get super cheap coring cost.

Oh and definitely do not pass any reforms until you have finished tag switching and plan to never do it again in that campaign because tag switching resets all reforms passed and your Mandate gets down to 50 or 60 immediately when you tag switch so don’t even worry about the Mandate mechanics until after tag switching.