"Economic base compared to..."

[Solitus]

Is the most frustating thing in this game. I am trying to vassalize Medri Bahri as Ethiopia. I have -82 total reasons to not accept vassalization. Let's break them down shall we?

Ethiopian economic base in comparison to Medri Bahri: -68. I now own the rest of the horn of Africa, I have an economic development of 269, they have 28.

That is the main thing I need to overcome, as it makes my overall "reasons to accept vassalization" at -44. I'm bigger than you! Just be my vassal!!! ARGH.

[c00lizz]

http://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Vassal#Offer_vassalization_.28diplomatic.29

[Solitus]

So all I can do is develop/conquer more provinces? I assume that feeding them provices would be bad since that will increase their base tax, production and manpower.

Weird how it doesn't take into consideration your base manpower, but only your base tax, your base production, and your vassal's base tax.

[Alidrules]

Is there a rush to vassalize? Pop across the gap and take the lower pen.

[Solitus]

Originally posted by S8J Alidrules:

Is there a rush to vassalize? Pop across the gap and take the lower pen.

Kind of, the goal of this run is "Prestor John".

I ended up allying with both Medri Bahri and Alodia, I need them out of the way so I can work my way north.

For some reason I was hesitant to conquer the lower peninsula since I thought that might drag me into more conflict that was nescesary, but that seems like a good path now.

*edit* Colonialism is due to spawn in a year or two, I'll just use that opportunity to boost my development like mad. hopefully that will do it.

[Alidrules]

Take the lower pen to beef up your power easily to vassalize

[mischa.zehnbauer]

Originally posted by Solitus:

So all I can do is develop/conquer more provinces? I assume that feeding them provices would be bad since that will increase their base tax, production and manpower.

Weird how it doesn't take into consideration your base manpower, but only your base tax, your base production, and your vassal's base tax.

Your manpower is afaik taken into consideration for the "military power"-modifier.

Also, only provinces in states count! So conquering half of the world won't help as long as you can't turn more provinces into states.

[Solitus]

Originally posted by mischa.zehnbauer:

Originally posted by Solitus:

So all I can do is develop/conquer more provinces? I assume that feeding them provices would be bad since that will increase their base tax, production and manpower.

Weird how it doesn't take into consideration your base manpower, but only your base tax, your base production, and your vassal's base tax.

Your manpower is afaik taken into consideration for the "military power"-modifier.

Also, only provinces in states count! So conquering half of the world won't help as long as you can't turn more provinces into states.

According to the formula it doesn't, but that would make sense if it did; because I have conquered my local area all while having approximately 0 manpower; due to being 1 to 2 tech levels ahead of all my neighbors.

Which is frustrating because I can see the AI going "You don't have the manpower to fight me!" which I would respond with "That's true, but you have a 7 stack of troops and I have one of 32...you know how that first fight will go...right?"