Europa Universalis IV

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fakemon64 Feb 4, 2018 @ 10:48am
Sunni vs Shia
Is it generally more fun to be sunni or shia while playing a nation in or around the middle-east/africa. Also, what are some of the perks/setbacks of each.
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Damedius Feb 4, 2018 @ 10:58am 
Shia you are pretty much a lone wolf and will have to convert more. Most mulsim nations are Sunni. all the big muslim nations are Sunni. So diplomacy will be harder as Shia.

Basically the game is much harder as Shia.
fakemon64 Feb 4, 2018 @ 10:59am 
i noticed that and was wondering how much more difficult that would make things
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Psychotic Fury Feb 4, 2018 @ 12:34pm 
Its not too bad. I started as Ajam and flipped to shia. Its only harder at the very start imo due to being harder to get allies with sunnis. But after you het a bit biggers its not a big deal
tonypa Feb 4, 2018 @ 1:48pm 
All Shia countries get +5% Morale of armies, Sunnis get +10% Cavalry ratio.

Shias have 3 schools:
Ismaili: +1% Yearly horde unity/legitimacy/tradition/devotion.
Jafari: +10% Shock damage.
Zaidi: −10% Shock damage received

But overall, as said, there are fewer Shia countries so Shia tend to convert more provinces.
Fellini_Fiend Feb 6, 2018 @ 11:21am 
Start Sunni, eat the land you need to form Persia and keep a few Shi’a provinces around as well having a Shia vassal that gives the bonus for shock damage received bonus that way you can have that bonus on top of the bonus that gives you more shock damage from the Shi’a school that gives it and whenever you form Persia wait for the event that gives you the choice to convert to being Shi’a and voila best of both worlds. In fortunately you’re less likely to get less of morale and missionary strength from mysticism since you’ll pretty only be fighting heretics and heathens by then where before you could get mysticism high because you’d be mostly warring with your fellow Sunni neighbors.
SirTalkALot Feb 6, 2018 @ 12:05pm 
Shia works quite well with Persia because they have a policy that can grant them a claim on ALL neighboring heretics/heathens provinces. Which is basically everyone once you taken over Timmy.
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Psychotic Fury Feb 6, 2018 @ 1:17pm 
I flipped to shia as Ajam within a cpl years. If you wait too long you start getting rebels because you only have a couple sunni provinces.

You get discipline from shia. And you already have +morale from persian ideas (when you form it). So your not any worse off than sunnis.

I pretty much stayed legalism my whole game. (Could never get itbinto myst) got a couple years to go (about 1817 now) got the persia achievement almost have unify islma (just gotta core ifni).
Soroushali khan Feb 7, 2024 @ 1:36pm 
shia have better military bouncese
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