How liberate a march or vassal

[Claudius Aetius]

Hi all,


I'm trying to figure out how can we liberate a March in a peaceful, diplomatic way. EU4 must have such possibility, isn't it? There is a lot of motives to prefer a peaceful separation rather than a "violent" one -- avoid a costly war, avoid an unecessary conflic, etc.

I have Normandy as March, but I want to liberate them before they reach 100% of liberty desire...

[Osloares]

If your trying to release them from you, you should just be able to end your lordship. If YOU are trying to seperate from a country you just need to support independence from a large power and typically the country in question will drop you

[Claudius Aetius]

Originally posted by Osloares:

If your trying to release them from you, you should just be able to end your lordship. If YOU are trying to seperate from a country you just need to support independence from a large power and typically the country in question will drop you

I'm trying to release them from me. But I cannot find any options to do it. So how can I end the lordship?

[tonypa]

Left click your March >> Diplomacy >> Influence Actions >> Revoke March >> wait 1 month >> Influence Actions again >> Break Vassalization

[Claudius Aetius]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Left click your March >> Diplomacy >> Influence Actions >> Revoke March >> wait 1 month >> Influence Actions again >> Break Vassalization

Thank you! Although I think it is weird that EU4 gives you harsh penalties (drop stability, low prestige, vassal "hate" us) just because you release a vassal. We are freeing them! They suppose to be thankful and remain friendly. At least EU4 should give us an option to keep them as allies or something...

[kaiyl_kariashi]

Because you're abandoning them after promising to protect them. (though getting full diplomatic ideas can completely remove or greatly reduce some of the penalties for doing so).

Protectorates served the "More than an Ally but not quite a vassal" level of subject interaction.

But they were poorly implemented and didn't fully encompass all protectorates represented (they were only covering the Colonial Protectorates, which had a bunch of restrictions on what you could make a protectorate).

And due to their shoddy implementation they eventually broke all to pieces and PD finally just removed them back in 1.20.


There's a surprisingly sizable movement to have them returned, albeit in a more historically accurate form, but there's still a lot of debating over exactly how they should be implemented this time. So don't expect them back any time soon.

[Claudius Aetius]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

Because you're abandoning them after promising to protect them. (though getting full diplomatic ideas can completely remove or greatly reduce some of the penalties for doing so).

Protectorates served the "More than an Ally but not quite a vassal" level of subject interaction.

But they were poorly implemented and didn't fully encompass all protectorates represented (they were only covering the Colonial Protectorates, which had a bunch of restrictions on what you could make a protectorate).

And due to their shoddy implementation they eventually broke all to pieces and PD finally just removed them back in 1.20.


There's a surprisingly sizable movement to have them returned, albeit in a more historically accurate form, but there's still a lot of debating over exactly how they should be implemented this time. So don't expect them back any time soon.

Thanks. Do you know if it is possible to release a march/vassal without penalties when their liberty desire reach 100% (or close to it)?

I mean, is there an option to release them and avoid war in such situations? In my view that should be a case in which the subject should be thankful -- they want to be released...

[tonypa]

Originally posted by scaletho:

I mean, is there an option to release them and avoid war in such situations? In my view that should be a case in which the subject should be thankful -- they want to be released...

No.

If their Liberty Desire is high, they could declare war on you to gain independence.