Can I get into this game .... without tutorials?

[david.]

Hey :D

I've been wanting to play Europa Universalis IV for a long time

Is it feasible to learn while playing? Just jump into it yolo-style? :D

[Rumi]

yeah

[puX]

Eu4 is like anal, hard and painfull, but you are getting used to it.

Joke aside, just play one or two runs with the ottomans or spain, and even if you fail, you will lern from your failure. If you played the game ~50 hours, then you almost know everything.

[Vetgirig on Linux]

Check out quill18 tutorial as Castile, it gives you a quick start to the game.

[mischa.zehnbauer]

Possible, but start without the DLCs, as those add a lot of stuff.

[AwesomeWolfgang]

Originally posted by MrSpanky1:

Eu4 is like anal, hard and painfull, but you are getting used to it.

Joke aside, just play one or two runs with the ottomans or spain, and even if you fail, you will lern from your failure. If you played the game ~50 hours, then you almost know everything.

I highly doubt that. You may know the basics, but not everything. Not nearly everything. And after 50 hours you will still have absolutely no idea how modifiers and mechanics work and how to use them properly, if you don't watch a ♥♥♥♥ ton of tutorials on youtube. But still, the only real way to learn EU IV is by playing it, since the game doesn't really hold your hand or tell you how to do ♥♥♥♥.

[CaptainSpacetime]

Yeah just be aware you might lose real bad.

[fakemon64]

no. in fact those who do are usually the main ones coming back to discusions to complain about the game being broken. i'd say this is one of those games that is more fun when you fully understand how to play it. it's not so fun watching your empires crumble one after another due to not being aware of certain mechanics.

this is also not one of those games thats easy to teach yourself from the ground up. i'd even say the tutorial alone probably wont give you a full understanding, i'd recommend watching a few guides on youtube.

[Frozenkhan]

I did it, so yes, it's very possible.

[fakemon64]

in the end in it really depends on you. if you play lots of other complex games then it'll be an easier adjustment in terms of management. especially if you play other paradox games. but certain mechanics, such as trade, arent as simple to figure out through trial and error.

comes down to whether or not you have patience. but if you rage easily, i recommend video guides before you even try the tutorial.

[Mista Dobalina]

The only reason why people Have So many hours is because everybody loses. Gotta keep playing, get that big ice cream cone in the sky before it melts. Thing is, it's still gonna melt.

[CaptainSpacetime]

You should just watch quills Castille tutorial though, I watched that after I lost real bad as Castille somehow.

Pretty sure I like no-CB'd France and got owned.

[runequester]

I never watched any youtubers and i figured it out, so yeah, you definitely can.
Start the game, play, explode your country but learn how one or two things work.

Start over, strive to figure out how one new thing works each time.

Most of the decisions you make in the game don't require optimal choices each time and "winning" is ultimately up to your own goals.

[Ronnek]

Trial by fire is the only way to learn.

[Noir]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

You should just watch quills Castille tutorial though, I watched that after I lost real bad as Castille somehow.

Pretty sure I like no-CB'd France and got owned.

This - you won't struggle playing the Ottomans, despite making numerous mistakes, because they're so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ overpowered and you can literally do nothing in regards to trade and still have enough money, but if you ever want to play a smaller nation, then you have to rethink your entire approach. What if your army isn't the biggest and baddest out there? How do you use terrain to your advantage? How do you place your forts the best way? How to play as a Horde?
There are so many things to do and learn that a tutorial is a lot qujicker than playing multiple rounds and figuring stuff out.

Solid base vieweing tutorials followed by playing with looking stuff up as it pops up is the bestw ay imo.

[Wumpus, Bringer of Death]

Originally posted by Ronnek:

Trial by fire is the only way to learn.