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THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 19:01
EU4 new player. event dropped Burgundys lands under my control. What steps should I take?
Playing what amounts to my first game of EU4 what with the restarts after attemps that really seemed to have unbalanced starting rivals.

Playing as Castile, 15 years in and an event gives me cores and control of 15 provinces that were Burgundy, I held 23 before so up to 38 now. There is a rebel army of 20k sieging Calais (new holding), my income has been cut in half. Burgundy was a rival and so is France, who is right between me and my new territory. I want to rival Morocco now but they don't come up on the list. I have completed 1 war with Granada and taken 2 of their provinces. Currently converting and coring them. My income has dropped by half and thats with no army mantanence. currently 0 war exahstion and 2 stability. I have 300 golds and that's after building infantry up to my new force limit. I'm also building my transports up so I can take a force of 10k at a time. I have a rebellion brewing in Granada %60 but have an army waiting that can crush it waiting (I think).

How important is it to crush the active rebels in my new territory(20k)? Thinking to take 20k troops there in 2 trips to fight them, unless France will give me military access.

Is "handling" the brewing rebellion (Granada) a better option than crushing them?

Should I make the new lands states?

Any other advice?

Fell free to ask questions for clarification of my empire position/ status.
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THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 20:44 
I've played a bunch of CK2 and watched 20+ episodes of the arumba/filtyrobot tutorial series so I have a reasonable grasp on the game.
firestar587 12. juni 2018 kl. 20:48 
so a few things
1. who are you allied with
2. whats your tech level

and im assueing those 20k rebels are spawned 60% will prob take 2-4 years to fire (even more if you raise automony) so yes you should deal with the 20k rebels in your land and i would bring your full army there 20kv20k is a fair fight and in eu4 fair fights are very very bad
and yes you should make them states the lowlands are one of the highest dev region and you would get aton of money from it and its 100% worth it

also feel free to add me
firestar587 12. juni 2018 kl. 20:49 
Oprindeligt skrevet af THCDelta9:
I've played a bunch of CK2 and watched 20+ episodes of the arumba/filtyrobot tutorial series so I have a reasonable grasp on the game.
CK2 and EU4 and very very very very very diffrent games do NOT try to play eu4 like ck2 you will fail like that
tonypa 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:02 
Remember that after 1550 you are likely going to get tons of Dutch rebels:
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Burgundian_events#Burgundian_events_regarding_Low_Countries
THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:44 
Oprindeligt skrevet af firestar587:
so a few things
1. who are you allied with
2. whats your tech level

and im assueing those 20k rebels are spawned 60% will prob take 2-4 years to fire (even more if you raise automony) so yes you should deal with the 20k rebels in your land and i would bring your full army there 20kv20k is a fair fight and in eu4 fair fights are very very bad
and yes you should make them states the lowlands are one of the highest dev region and you would get aton of money from it and its 100% worth it

also feel free to add me
Currently allied with Portugal, Aragon, and Tlemcen with Navaro as a vassal working toward full annexation. Tech levels are 4,4,4 and I am a few months from another military advancement.

making the territories states lowers autonomy which increases income, that was on the list of things to do due to my recent research.

The 20k rebels are active in my new territory that was burgundy. The %60 are 13k in Granada. I have a 20k army I was going to ship transpo up to Calais but can only move 10k at a time' and was going to leave the other 16k to deal with the granada rebs when they fired. I'm worried about the 20k rebs in my northern area eating the 10k I drop b 4 I can get the rest up there. France and england are my current rivals so I likely wont be able to get military access through France.

Thanks for the feed back.
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THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:48 
Oprindeligt skrevet af tonypa:
Remember that after 1550 you are likely going to get tons of Dutch rebels:
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Burgundian_events#Burgundian_events_regarding_Low_Countries
I'm playing as Castile, do these trigger if you hold particular provinces or do they trigger if you are playing a particular nation(Burgundy in this case)?
firestar587 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:52 
Oprindeligt skrevet af THCDelta9:
Oprindeligt skrevet af firestar587:
so a few things
1. who are you allied with
2. whats your tech level

and im assueing those 20k rebels are spawned 60% will prob take 2-4 years to fire (even more if you raise automony) so yes you should deal with the 20k rebels in your land and i would bring your full army there 20kv20k is a fair fight and in eu4 fair fights are very very bad
and yes you should make them states the lowlands are one of the highest dev region and you would get aton of money from it and its 100% worth it

also feel free to add me
Currently allied with Portugal, Aragon, and Tlemcen with Navaro as a vassal working toward full annexation. Tech levels are 4,4,4 and I am a few months from another military advancement.

making the territories states lowers autonomy which increases income, that was on the list of things to do due to my recent research.

The 20k rebels are active in my new territory that was burgundy. The %60 are 13k in Granada. I have a 20k army I was going to ship transpo up to Calais but can only move 10k at a time' and was going to leave the other 16k to deal with the granada rebs when they fired. I'm worried about the 20k rebs in my northern area eating the 10k I drop b 4 I can get the rest up there. France and england are rivals so I likely wont be able to get military access through France.

Thanks for the feed back.
i would bring up all 36k troops to deal with that 20k stack has you will be able to deal with it very quick and then bring those troops back down to deal with the granda rebels
and maybe leave 10k troops up there as well
THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:56 
It's just getting them there 10k at a time I worry about....
tonypa 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:58 
Dutch Revolts will trigger as long the country holding the provinces does not have Dutch/Flemish as primary culture. As Castile you can avoid them only by converting culture of all those provinces. Plus, these are events, you can not avoid them by suppressing unrest with troops or increasing autonomy like you normally do.

I played as Burgundy myself recently and had one of my 60k army just for constantly fighting these rebels off.
THCDelta9 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:58 
I guess I'll make a save and give the can a kick.
firestar587 12. juni 2018 kl. 21:59 
Oprindeligt skrevet af tonypa:
Dutch Revolts will trigger as long the country holding the provinces does not have Dutch/Flemish as primary culture. As Castile you can avoid them only by converting culture of all those provinces. Plus, these are events, you can not avoid them by suppressing unrest with troops or increasing autonomy like you normally do.

I played as Burgundy myself recently and had one of my 60k army just for constantly fighting these rebels off.
which means even if you play really well as burgundy you still get aton of rebels bc reasons
if burgundy holds the land they shouldn't spawn
Alley The Toaster 12. juni 2018 kl. 23:42 
Oprindeligt skrevet af THCDelta9:
I've played a bunch of CK2 and watched 20+ episodes of the arumba/filtyrobot tutorial series so I have a reasonable grasp on the game.

Arumba? Hmmm... That's not good enough xD You watched wrong tutorial vids and they're Arumba's. Oh boi.
IndirectHero 13. juni 2018 kl. 0:13 
I would just move your capital to the lowlands (maybe 200 admin points for the move?), like Antwerp as the capital to prevent the Netherland rebels event. Because I find it a waste of time and diplo points, maybe 1k worth of diplo points to convert all those provinces to your culture and not to mention, many many years to finish converting.

Though you still have to deal with the basic separatist rebels if those provinces have high revolt which can be easily countered with the -10 unrest with autonomy and accepting their culture. On a positive note, I find the English Channel trade end node to be better than the Sevilla trade node.
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