How to remove kebab

[barkingamer]

Playing jerusalem and I always get kebab infestation right about during 1550

[barkingamer]

Bump

Also while playing as byzantium even with polish help(and plenty of savescums) I still got trashed

Help

[Fantastic Fwoosh]

Get strong allies & force them to use boats by by taking places like Macedonia, disarm their forts & bring cannons via leveling up tech before they start building them themselves (because ottomans with 10-10 soldier/cannon armies are scary with a two or three star general)

Least thats how i play my Albanian anti-Ottoman strategy, isolate Bulgaria & Greece regions then take Thesally & Constantinople with a foothold into Anatolia.

Steal their castles that you want to keep (and can afford) and take provinces with buildings they construct (free temples, shipyards etc.) If you can't take a castle province yourself, release a nation (Morea for example, for south greece) ontop of it to just deny land and weaken the blob.

[barkingamer]

Originally posted by Fantastic Fwoosh:

Get strong allies & force them to use boats by by taking places like Macedonia, disarm their forts & bring cannons via leveling up tech before they start building them themselves (because ottomans with 10-10 soldier/cannon armies are scary with a two or three star general)

Least thats how i play my Albanian anti-Ottoman strategy, isolate Bulgaria & Greece regions then take Thesally & Constantinople with a foothold into Anatolia.

Steal their castles that you want to keep (and can afford) and take provinces with buildings they construct (free temples, shipyards etc.) If you can't take a castle province yourself, release a nation (Morea for example, for south greece) ontop of it to just deny land and weaken the blob.

That is, if you do manage to weaken them, but I get trashed during my first wars with kebab

[Xangelo7]

Well in a nutshell, you need polish hussars, roach poison/raid Max, hope for Russia to form and hope for Russia to take Crimea, and strong allies

[Chocolate Starfish]

Originally posted by Xangelo7:

Well in a nutshell, you need polish hussars, roach poison/raid Max, hope for Russia to form and hope for Russia to take Crimea, and strong allies

>279 hrs on record
>Achievement Progress 0 of 205

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[barkingamer]

Originally posted by Chocolate Starfish:

Originally posted by Xangelo7:

Well in a nutshell, you need polish hussars, roach poison/raid Max, hope for Russia to form and hope for Russia to take Crimea, and strong allies

>279 hrs on record
>Achievement Progress 0 of 205

k

Hey man no trolling

At least he is honest enough to not set his profile as private

[barkingamer]

Originally posted by Xangelo7:

Well in a nutshell, you need polish hussars, roach poison/raid Max, hope for Russia to form and hope for Russia to take Crimea, and strong allies

I got all those except roach poison

Where do I go to buy it?

Billy Mays?

[barkingamer]

I need to cap edirne for the strat to work though, any thoughts?

[Zuul]

Originally posted by shogunsmurf:

To remove kebab, you need to attack kebab before kebab attacks you.

Kebabs army needs to be on the other side of the ocean or you need loads of people who also want to remove kebab. Preferably Hungarian, Austrian or Polish anti-kebab. Although Mamulk kebab doesn't like Turkish kebab and vise virca.

Be sure to have war goal on your side of the ocean for 25 ticking war score.

Kebab is pretty bad at navy management, do not be to scared of his big navy. Just repair after every engagement and be sure to roll a proper admiral. Do not forget that to block kebab armies, you need to occupy inland sea, where light ships get combat bonus.

You can beat kebab with 1/5th of his navy size, your fleet compo should be roughtly 1/4th heavy, 3/4 lights if your low on cash, if you are a bit more wealthy, 1/3 heavy 2/3 light.

Best to just set anti-kebab navy in inland sea before declaring.

You can also try and appeasing the kebab, by keeping 150+ relations kebab will most likely ignore you and you can build up to catch kebab off guard.

I've taken a fairly good chunk of time away from the game, and it's been awhile since I used the Byzantines to eat those pesky Ottomans, but.....

Light ships now get the bonus on inland seas? Did you mean to say Galley's, or did they move that buff over to light ships?

Because if they didn't, fielding light ships on an inland sea in a combat role is a recipe to get your ass ripped clean off and fed to you.

[Zuul]

Originally posted by barkingamer:

Bump

Also while playing as byzantium even with polish help(and plenty of savescums) I still got trashed

Help

It's been awhile since I did it, Dec 15 was when I knocked out Bassileus, apparantly.

That being said, the way I went about it involved some hair trigger timing. Things have probably changed since then but....

I immediately improved relations with Albania and formed an Alliance with them (needed the alliance because serbia and bosnia were basically always starting allied on that patch) sent my troops to Albania, and declared a no cassus belli war against the Serbs for new lands (the trick here was getting to it before the Ottomans sent their warning, which required a number of retries to get the alliance and fire the war before hand). The extra troops and navy this affords you moves you a wee bit down the targetting list and buys you some time before the Ottomans come for you.

At that point I left Albania to hang when the Ottomans or Venetians inevitablly came calling and set about establishing relationships and alliances with the Hungarians and Polish.

At that point it's simply a matter of growing a bit where you have the opportunity (with some luck you can occasionally get an oportunity to poach some lands from the Venetians depending on what wars they go for), and kicking them in the...uhhh...kebabs when the opportunity presents.

[barkingamer]

Originally posted by Zuul:

Originally posted by barkingamer:

Bump

Also while playing as byzantium even with polish help(and plenty of savescums) I still got trashed

Help

It's been awhile since I did it, Dec 15 was when I knocked out Bassileus, apparantly.

That being said, the way I went about it involved some hair trigger timing. Things have probably changed since then but....

I immediately improved relations with Albania and formed an Alliance with them (needed the alliance because serbia and bosnia were basically always starting allied on that patch) sent my troops to Albania, and declared a no cassus belli war against the Serbs for new lands (the trick here was getting to it before the Ottomans sent their warning, which required a number of retries to get the alliance and fire the war before hand). The extra troops and navy this affords you moves you a wee bit down the targetting list and buys you some time before the Ottomans come for you.

At that point I left Albania to hang when the Ottomans or Venetians inevitablly came calling and set about establishing relationships and alliances with the Hungarians and Polish.

At that point it's simply a matter of growing a bit where you have the opportunity (with some luck you can occasionally get an oportunity to poach some lands from the Venetians depending on what wars they go for), and kicking them in the...uhhh...kebabs when the opportunity presents.

Yeah I tried to take all the high development provinces in Italy but that gives me a lot of aggressive expansion

Have taken venice and genoa though, and have gotten qara quoyunlu, muscovy and poland as allies and have now going to secure my foothold in the crimea, but my dream is still to take over the balkans and Kosovo as it has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gold in it

Thankfully the ottomans haven't taken it yet

[barkingamer]

Problem now is to get the ottomans to attack me

How do I do that?

I have insulted them, allied their rivals and pissed them to eternity by picking all the reclaim balkans mission but they still don't want to attack me

It's 1527 and I'm now officially itching for a war

[barkingamer]

Honestly I just want muscovy to join me and Poland in our crusade against them but I need the ottomans to attack me for that as crimea decided against an ottoman protectorate so that's an issue

Or should I just go with qara qoyunlu and Poland once the ottomans declare war on the mamluks for the 3rd time and hope for the best?

[barkingamer]

YES I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY REMOVED KEBAB FROM THE BALKANS

MAKE BYZANTIUM GREAT AGAIN!!!