Who to integrate first as denmark?

[spalius]

Im playing as denmark, pretty good start, i got some provinces from novgorod, allied muscovy, took estonia from livionian order, vassalized riga and annexed holstein. I allready got 22 provinces and sweden has 26, im not that far away, so maybe i should integrate sweden first because of that naaasty event that makes you enemies with sweden...

[Zé Andarilho]

you have to integrate norway first, because you can not integrate countries with more provinces than you

[mischa.zehnbauer]

What year is it? Unless you want to colonize, integrating norway doesn't grant you much, so you might as well go for Sweden. On the other hand I had no problems keeping Sweden happy, even as historical rival. At least until I did something realy stupid and forced them to change religion ^^

However, even when they broke out of the Union after my Kings dead, I could quickly reestablish the PU as you get the correspondend cb. Of course that did reset the 50 years counter, so you best avoid that.

Summarized: Pick either one and don't worry too much. Denmark is easy once you managed a good start.

edit:

Originally posted by Hudson Andrei:

you have to integrate norway first, because you can not integrate countries with more provinces than you

Well yes, obviously you would have to take 4 additional provinces first.

[spalius]

Originally posted by mischa.zehnbauer:

What year is it? Unless you want to colonize, integrating norway doesn't grant you much, so you might as well go for Sweden. On the other hand I had no problems keeping Sweden happy, even as historical rival. At least until I did something realy stupid and forced them to change religion ^^

However, even when they broke out of the Union after my Kings dead, I could quickly reestablish the PU as you get the correspondend cb. Of course that did reset the 50 years counter, so you best avoid that.

Summarized: Pick either one and don't worry too much. Denmark is easy once you managed a good start.

Its easy until you have 0 manpower and it regenerates by 155 and you have 15k rebels... fml and then sweden decides to be usefull can helps defeat army, then muscovy defeats other rebels lol

[spalius]

Also if you press in scandinavian constitution drop the whole idea, will it destroy your pu?

[Exarch_Alpha]

No. But it will greatly increase Sweden´sa liberty desire so you will have to be bigger, stronger and also use the other measures that reduce LD (keeping up in diplo tech etc etc). If you are weak, then obviously don´t bite more than you can chew and use the option to remain "nice" with Sweden.

[spalius]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

No. But it will greatly increase Sweden´sa liberty desire so you will have to be bigger, stronger and also use the other measures that reduce LD (keeping up in diplo tech etc etc). If you are weak, then obviously don´t bite more than you can chew and use the option to remain "nice" with Sweden.

Well i allready integrated sweden and i say its a better than norway decision. I will integrate norway next, and i have a vassal in scotland called gaeldom, that i released from scotland (retaking england!), also is it possible to be nordic?

[Briar]

This is my current denmark campaign
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824147116

I integrated teutonic order first, then I formed prussia and now i'm integrating sweden and norway at the same time.

[spalius]

Originally posted by BriarMoss:

This is my current denmark campaign
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824147116

I integrated teutonic order first, then I formed prussia and now i'm integrating sweden and norway at the same time.

Wow is it really denmark now? I way behind in diplo and i own half of scotland plus whole of scandinavia and novgorod and some colonies in carribean.

[Mikey]

BriarMoss. I take it you culture shifted to Prussian for that? Nice move lol