Religious Leagues start?

[peterhaai]

I'm playing as Protestant Prussia with the Art of War DLC. It's 1612. I've recently become Emperor of the HRE. I control most of Northern Germany and about 80% of the HRE is Protestant. (so just Austria and like two bishoprics catholic). When will the religious Leagues or the Peace of Westphalia come into play? is it not going to happen because of the large Protestant Supremacy?

[ComandanteFOX]

How did you become emperor as a prostetant nation if the league wars haven´t happened yet?

[peterhaai]

dunno. like half the electors are Protestant. i vassalized one and another is my ally since the beginning of the game. the other electors are split between Bohemia and Austria.

[ComandanteFOX]

Well, since you are the Emperor and Protestant i dont think the league wars will happen as the emperor has to be a catholic.

[peterhaai]

huh. odd. Also, I was going through my new powers, but found that i couldn't remove electorates because: 'HRE has no official religion'.

[skybix]

If any league war lasts a long time (exact time unknown), or if it ends in a peace that does not involve either side securing the "Religious Supremacy" peace term, the (Peace of Westphalia) is signed, ending the religious war and allowing any Christian to be elected Emperor. This is the only way for a Reformed, Orthodox or Coptic ruler to become emperor. The Peace of Westphalia also disables religion-based casus bellis such as "Cleansing of Heresy" between Christians inside the Empire. Emperors will no longer gain or lose imperial authority for Princes converting after the Peace of Westphalia is signed, also the monthly imperial authority loss for heretic princes is halved.

If the religious leagues are not triggered in the HRE before 1635, the Imperial Parliament convenes in a Diet to proclaim the Emperor's religion the sole faith with the same effect as if the Catholic League had won the league war. This will happen if none of the Electors convert to Protestant. If the Leagues do form, then after 30 years with no league war occurring, there is a chance that the Diet will occur in the favor of the Emperor. The mean time of this happening is 5 years after the initial 30 years without a league war, and it will only trigger if the player is at peace, not in a regency, and has no truces with any of the electors in the opposing leagues.

quote from the wiki.

[ComandanteFOX]

Originally posted by skybix:

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If the religious leagues are not triggered in the HRE before 1635, the Imperial Parliament convenes in a Diet to proclaim the Emperor's religion the sole faith with the same effect as if the Catholic League had won the league war.

I am curious if then the catholics will win and become the major religion and you will be dethroned or the protestants will win since you are the emperor.

[Findus]

There should be a symbol over the holy empire screen showing wheter the league wars had happened. A dove for both protestants and catholics which means neither won or a symbol for one or the other someone won the war.

[peterhaai]

Originally posted by skybix:

If the religious leagues are not triggered in the HRE before 1635, the Imperial Parliament convenes in a Diet to proclaim the Emperor's religion the sole faith with the same effect as if the Catholic League had won the league war. This will happen if none of the Electors convert to Protestant.

quote from the wiki.

but there are Protestant electors.

[peterhaai]

the heck... 'Religious Peace' is on.
.... did two bloody OPMs fight out the League War between themselves and did the game forget to inform me of this?
..... The HRE is weird.

[muddy4x4s]

I posted 3 screenshots of my last game when I was declaring an official religion in HRE if you'd like to see.
Peter

[peterhaai]

sadly. the leagues never formed. and the realm's at peace. there is no official religion and its free for all for everyone. i don't see a way to change this. i got into two regencys after another and lost all my legitemacy to weak claims, so i won't be emperor for some time. i think i'm just gonna try to form Germany now,

[Yxklyx]

Originally posted by peterhaai:

sadly. the leagues never formed. and the realm's at peace. there is no official religion and its free for all for everyone. i don't see a way to change this. i got into two regencys after another and lost all my legitemacy to weak claims, so i won't be emperor for some time. i think i'm just gonna try to form Germany now,

So that's not on the wiki it seems. The wiki also has typos:

"If the religious leagues are not triggered in the HRE before 1635..."

should read

"If the religious league war is not triggered in the HRE before 1635..."

What's not on the wiki is that if the Emperor is Protestant the League won't form.

Edit: but per the wiki you should not have been able to become Emperor, so it seems the leagues formed and there was no war and the Diet was held in favor of no one. You should setup message settings for when nations join leagues - I thought this was on by default.

[Mikey]

Originally posted by Yxklyx:

Originally posted by peterhaai:

sadly. the leagues never formed. and the realm's at peace. there is no official religion and its free for all for everyone. i don't see a way to change this. i got into two regencys after another and lost all my legitemacy to weak claims, so i won't be emperor for some time. i think i'm just gonna try to form Germany now,

So that's not on the wiki it seems. The wiki also has typos:

"If the religious leagues are not triggered in the HRE before 1635..."

should read

"If the religious league war is not triggered in the HRE before 1635..."

What's not on the wiki is that if the Emperor is Protestant the League won't form.

Edit: but per the wiki you should not have been able to become Emperor, so it seems the leagues formed and there was no war and the Diet was held in favor of no one. You should setup message settings for when nations join leagues - I thought this was on by default.

The emperor cannot be protestant unless one of two things have happened.

1) League war ended in a stalemate (with actual fighting having happened, means religious freedom in the empire) or protestant supremacy
2) No internal wars allowed in the HRE (automatic religious freedom)

If any current emperor switches to any other religion than catholicism without any of those two criteria having been met the emperor will immediately be removed and a new will be elected.

Also is the league wars end without war having been declared at all the catholics automatically win.

[peterhaai]

i guess some bug must have occured.

[R2D2 3]

Certainly a bug.

Same tale here. Playing as Austria.

And have no idea when the dove also moved on the HRE interface.

Brandenburg and my ally Saxony went Protestants pretty early. 1510 or so. But Leagues never fired and the game certainly thinks Peace of Westphalia happened. Brandenburg even hates me, so diplomacy shouldn't have blocked the leagues to form.

Like the OP I can't enforce Catholicism and Protestants certainly can be Electors and they seem to be able to be elected too. Completely like if Westphalia happened.

I am currently in 1620. PUed the Commonwealth and Hungary, Saxony and Brandenburg are still Protestant electors and the former still my ally, no HRE clay in foreign domain except for Holstein, with just three Imperial Reforms; nothing that should interfere.

Weird.

I guess I will falsely declare "conquest" wars to convert the heretics and be Defender of the Faith to keep the Empire striving.