how to form russia as Muscovy

[qwert]

Most of the time, novograd allies with denmark(not always) and i have no one to ally with because everyone hates me which means when I finish a war, the kazachs or novograd or the golden hoard/Crimea declare war on me :(

[Odd420]

Muscovy is a tough but very rewarding nation to play as if you can manage to be successful. First thing I always do is go to war as soon as possible with Novgorod and conquest the land that borders Sweden, (also try and get them to get independence becausse they are your best ally). First Idea group i take is economic, one of Muscovys biggest problems is the amount of money they make (dont integrate your vassals any time soon becuase you loose more than you gain from that. You will quickly learn how you will be fight back to back to back wars. In my current game for example I had 0 manpower for about 100+ years. Use the Russian ability to get units whenever it is possible and spare the other two for when they are needed. (provided you have the Third Rome DLC). your conquest goals should be to block off the Danish from moving inito Novgorod and then to stop the Commonwealth from expanding to the east. Ignore kazan for now because they will fall to you sooner or later. your primary targets are Novgorod and the Great/Golden horde.

[qwert]

Originally posted by Odd420:

Muscovy is a tough but very rewarding nation to play as if you can manage to be successful. First thing I always do is go to war as soon as possible with Novgorod and conquest the land that borders Sweden, (also try and get them to get independence becausse they are your best ally). First Idea group i take is economic, one of Muscovys biggest problems is the amount of money they make (dont integrate your vassals any time soon becuase you loose more than you gain from that. You will quickly learn how you will be fight back to back to back wars. In my current game for example I had 0 manpower for about 100+ years. Use the Russian ability to get units whenever it is possible and spare the other two for when they are needed. (provided you have the Third Rome DLC). your conquest goals should be to block off the Danish from moving inito Novgorod and then to stop the Commonwealth from expanding to the east. Ignore kazan for now because they will fall to you sooner or later. your primary targets are Novgorod and the Great/Golden horde.

I don’t have third Rome only art of war and common sense. Also how would get the other lands like Lithuania and razych(or what ever that country is called) cause the land I need from them would be hard to get

[XerxesTheUndead]

Originally posted by Chef Boyardee:

I don’t have third Rome only art of war and common sense. Also how would get the other lands like Lithuania and razych(or what ever that country is called) cause the land I need from them would be hard to get

Between the two of them, Ryazan is the easiest to acquire. What you want to do is, either after you annexed all of Novgorod or while you still have a truce with them, immediately delcare war on Ryazan if it is still independent or if it got annexed by Odeyev. If it got annexed by Kazan or the Great Horde, you should just wait until after you finished off Novgorod. Considering how often Poland chooses a Jagellion and gets that PU over Lithuania, you will get your rear end handed to you on a silver platter if you fight the PLC too early. Unless the PLC is somehow in complete disarray and is totally exposed, you should wait to attack them until you can match them evenly.

[brian_va]

ryazan is a good vassel, feed him some musilm land. oyodev is prime for the taking as well.
integragte your own ASAP; be mindful of your diplo rep. tver, novgorod are yours to claim, the first fight again novgorod take as much bordering sweden as you can to keep them at bay. personally, i dont take muslim land until after religious ideas where i can convert, but that is really your call.

[qwert]

Originally posted by brian_va:

ryazan is a good vassel, feed him some musilm land. oyodev is prime for the taking as well.
integragte your own ASAP; be mindful of your diplo rep. tver, novgorod are yours to claim, the first fight again novgorod take as much bordering sweden as you can to keep them at bay. personally, i dont take muslim land until after religious ideas where i can convert, but that is really your call.

I can’t make Ryazan vassal cause it keeps saying my military and economy is isnt more superior than Ryazan

[brian_va]

never said they would come peaceful. they will need a bit of persuasion.