How to ally a good country as byzantium

[CinemaEnjoyer]

I try to ally Austria, hungary and poland but the best i can get is wallachia is there any way of allying somone who can beat the ottomans?

[CTHOMP]

Restart until you get favorable chances for alliances. The Byzantium achievements requires apt of uncontrollable things to go your way early on and may require many restarts.

[CinemaEnjoyer]

Ok thanks

[Admod, the Equivocal]

Albania. Skanderbeg

[Omniconda]

With all DLC actuve atm, the answer is You Dont. At least not for teh first 20 years.
After many many many tries i can say your looking for abit of luck and ottomans to go after Albania.
Pick up the baltic allies but not all of them or Ottomans will have no choice but to come for you.
Focus on those with a Navy as priority tho its mainly defensive at this point.
When Ottos go for Albania they will bring in Venice. this is time for you to expand against Venice and his minors naxos/knights/corfu with Serbia if you allied them.
If Hungry joins with Albania leave Venice for now and Albania should return your cores if when they win allowing you to get the Allies you Deserve and the option of taking on a weak ottomans to get the Bulgarian lands with your Naval based Allies

[John Cuphead]

Actually, 9 games out of 10 Ottomans get smashed now in an early war against Albania, guaranteed by Venice and Hungary. My current Byz game they completely destroyed Ottomans and gave me back all my cores, and I wasn't even in the war.

Byz got very easy this patch, as long as Ottomans don't dec on you first.

[Omniconda]

Originally posted by RatedMforManly:

Actually, 9 games out of 10 Ottomans get smashed now in an early war against Albania, guaranteed by Venice and Hungary. My current Byz game they completely destroyed Ottomans and gave me back all my cores, and I wasn't even in the war.

Byz got very easy this patch, as long as Ottomans don't dec on you first.

Ottos get smashed 1 in 50 for me and defeated by Albania only 1-10 they usually white peace if they war early as hungry doesnt always ally them. Not once have ive seem them destroyed except when i did it myself. Byzan infact got alot harder than previous

[CinemaEnjoyer]

i have never seen the ottomans being defeated by venice and albania

[John Cuphead]

Originally posted by Rikugun-Taishō Banzai:

i have never seen the ottomans being defeated by venice and albania

I've had it happen in all 4 of my playthroughs now this patch. Kinda ruined the game for me since my Mamluks, Muscovy, Najd and Byz games went completely unopposed...

[CinemaEnjoyer]

Oh ok

[Orxan]

Originally posted by RatedMforManly:

Actually, 9 games out of 10 Ottomans get smashed now in an early war against Albania, guaranteed by Venice and Hungary. My current Byz game they completely destroyed Ottomans and gave me back all my cores, and I wasn't even in the war.

Byz got very easy this patch, as long as Ottomans don't dec on you first.

true AI ottomans do stupid ♥♥♥♥♥ now