"Too many diplomatic relations"

[Kirbe]

Haven't played in a while. Bought the new dlcs(don't have the muslim one yet) and started a game. Obtained Poland, that has a PU over Lithuania and Bohemia, as an ally, but can't get a royal marriage. We have the same religion. It says "Too many diplomatic relations", but we are already allies. Is it a bug or something the AI does now? He is over his dip relations limit, but a royal marriage won't change anything.

[Damedius]

That's odd the game has been at bit buggy since the new DLC released. Have you tried reloading?

[linutika]

Originally posted by Damedius:

That's odd the game has been at bit buggy since the new DLC released. Have you tried reloading?

It's been like that since they made the Too many diploslots filled penalty higher (1.21 or 1.22)

[Shai-Hulud]

Originally posted by James de la Rhodok:

Originally posted by Damedius:

That's odd the game has been at bit buggy since the new DLC released. Have you tried reloading?

It's been like that since they made the Too many diploslots filled penalty higher (1.21 or 1.22)

If he already has Poland as an ally they shouldn't deny a royal marriage based on too many diplomatic relations.

[XerxesTheUndead]

Are they allied to anyone else or is it only just you, Lithuania, and Bohemia?

[Kirbe]

Originally posted by Damedius:

That's odd the game has been at bit buggy since the new DLC released. Have you tried reloading?

Yes. It seems like a bug.

[Kirbe]

Originally posted by HUMAN INFANTICIDE:

Originally posted by James de la Rhodok:

It's been like that since they made the Too many diploslots filled penalty higher (1.21 or 1.22)

If he already has Poland as an ally they shouldn't deny a royal marriage based on too many diplomatic relations.

Well they do. -150 reasons "Poland have too many diplomatic relations".

[Kirbe]

Originally posted by XerxesTheUndead:

Are they allied to anyone else or is it only just you, Lithuania, and Bohemia?

They have 3 allies, including me, Bohemia and Lithuania under a PU and the Moldavian march. They are over the limit, but the royal marriage is would not be the reason. They got the PU with Bohemia, what is causing the problem.

[Shogun_Potatoe]

The same happened to me though they eventually sent a request

[Shai-Hulud]

Originally posted by Тарек:

Originally posted by HUMAN INFANTICIDE:

If he already has Poland as an ally they shouldn't deny a royal marriage based on too many diplomatic relations.

Well they do. -150 reasons "Poland have too many diplomatic relations".

Yes. I was agreeing with you that this is an odd situation.

[the_panther]

This was changed in a patch maybe a year ago,

They used to give each AI an extra diplomat slot that could be used only for a human player. It was kind of a 'cheat' in favor of the human player.

Now, the AI is not given the extra human-only diplo slot and the player must compete fairly and squarely against all AIs for the available slots.

I think it is a better system since human players are so much better than AIs that they do not really need any artificial cheats in their favor.

If you set them to friendly and get +100 relations, the AI will frequently ally you when someone else is dropped. The same thing applies to the royal marraiges.

The penalty is usually the same for alliances or royal marraiges, but sometimes one is easier to get than the other.

Of course, it could just be a new bug in the latest patch.

[Kirbe]

Thanks guys. I might just start a new campaign, since i noticed i have the problem with the AI integrating their subjects. It is driving me crazy, but can't do anything about it.