Any tips for how to get the Master of India achievement as France?

[Gerfreckle]

I'm playing my first France ironman game and it's 1520. I own almost all of what modern-day France's borders are, as well as all of Ireland except Pale (which England owns). I'm the 2nd most powerful nation in the world after the Ottomans, and the most powerful Christian nation. I'm allied with Castile, which is the 2nd most powerful Christian nation, so my position is pretty safe. I've got my fill with colonisation in my first ironman game which was as Portugal, and taking into consideration France's military might in both quality and quantity, I wanted to do something else. I saw the achievement for conquering all of the cores in India and thought that would be a nice challenge. So far India hasn't even been discovered on my map though, so I'll have to do that first.

Are there any tips you would suggest for trying to get the Master of India achievement? Anything to be careful of?

[Nedyahlz]

I know this is not advice for france but the best nation to get Master of India is the ottomans as they are closer, Overpower, and a blobtastic nation. Also they ARE a european nation as their capital starts in Edirne in the Balkans right next to Constaninople.

[Shai-Hulud]

Watch your overextension. There are a ton of high development provinces there, especially with common sense enabled.

If you have mandate of heaven enabled, it can be annoying if nations like Bengal become Ming tributaries.

Ottomans may eventually form a coalition if Sunni country dominates India. I would start in the south (Ceylon if still around) but hit all sides.

Imperialism makes invading India a lot easier. Google India super region to see exactly which provinces you need.

If you do it in a decent amount of time you could shoot for the achievement where you core all of Japan as a European nation too. (The rising sun).

[Gerfreckle]

Originally posted by DOG LICK MOUTH:

If you do it in a decent amount of time you could shoot for the achievement where you core all of Japan as a European nation too. (The rising sun).

Yeah I had this achievement on my achievement wish-list (for lack of a better term) too. I might go for that one instead, since it seems it might be easier.

[Shai-Hulud]

Honestly, I think the fastest way to conquer those entire regions is to take exploration early, to colonize your way there. You don't necessarily need to play a colonial game, just as a means to extend your range to get claims early.

Or, build up your country in Europe and wait for imperialism cb and declare on anyone.

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by Kefka:

No offense, but at your current skill set/experience it is not possible for you to do this achievement with the Ottomans let alone the French.

Get off your high horse. That achievement is easy. You could have nothing in India in 1700 and still end up owning all of it by 1800. Admin efficiency + admin group + diplomacy group (i think, -25% warscore cost per province) lets you take half of India in one war.

[the_panther]

Originally posted by Gerfreckle:

Yeah I had this achievement on my achievement wish-list (for lack of a better term) too. I might go for that one instead, since it seems it might be easier.

If you are going to do the India achievement as France, then you should also do the Big Blue Blob achievement and go into Georgia, Crimera, Golden Horde, etc to get it. Then, after getting your cores back from England, you can hope the Burgudian event fires and totally ignore Europe plus the high AE there.

After that, France has a blobbing path to India through the Timmurids aregion.

I will also say that I did the India achievement years ago with the Ottomans. Even though I was not an expert back then, it was super easy. No other European nation is positioned as well has the Ottomans to invade India. Plus, you can always get a strong Indian muslim nation as an ally to help you, and then later backstab them of course.

[the_panther]

Originally posted by Kefka:

Let's see you do it then, Iron Mode with the current version and the nation of France -you half twit. I bet you a million bucks you cannot do it.

I would take that bet on behalf of Yaldabaoth. He has 1K+ hours and 100+ achievements playing the game so he is not a clueless beginner. it would be borderline trivial for him.

As for you also, Kefka, since you have even more hours and more achievements than he does. I would be very hard pressed to believe you could not do it trivially as France either.

Heck, in my current Saxony game, I have the island of Diego Garcia already in the mid 1500s and it would be extremely easy for me to take India if I wanted. But I am going after Ming instead to get the Porcelain achievement which I am certain will prove much harder.

[Pozz]

I would just expand for a bit and solidify my European holdings. Occationally I'd fight England for their colonies in Africa and around 1600 when Portugal gets Goa by event which will be your entry to the rest of India.
If they at that point are still allied to Castille, drag them into a war to avoid them joining.

If England doesn't colonise Africa you might have to play smarter around it.

No-cb war against Mali and later Kilwa could do it. Otherwise working your way through Russia and then Persia might be the way to go.

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by Kefka:

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Get off your high horse. That achievement is easy. You could have nothing in India in 1700 and still end up owning all of it by 1800. Admin efficiency + admin group + diplomacy group (i think, -25% warscore cost per province) lets you take half of India in one war.

Let's see you do it then, Iron Mode with the current version and the nation of France -you half twit. I bet you a million bucks you cannot do it.

Challenge accepted.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1130005779
This was a France game I played 1-2 months ago. As you can see India is in a most problematic state and is going to be a ♥♥♥♥♥ to conquer. It's 1752 and I only have 2 provinces in the Gujarati area. We will see how I fare against that.

[Yaldabaoth]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1130172570
After two wars (with breaking truce). Not gonna lie, the rebels at 250% overextension are annoying. Broke Russia-Malwa-Bengal alliance, can pick them off one after the other now. Ming is going to make Bengal a tributary but I'm not afraid of Ming. I can easily raise another 100-200k troops just in case. Russia is also attacking Ming now, so they will be very weak. Next wars around 1770.
Anyone know if disaster progress resets to 0% after you stop it?

[Mr.M]

Its easily possible to get whole india in 100 years with imperialism cb, taking that you are strong enough and own already something there.

Tho it takes quite a lot of wars, at least 6 without Common Sense (no deving up).

[DDRZed]

Conquer British Isles, Iberian peninsula and most of the French culture group. There u have a strong power base to fuel the conquest of India and/or Japan.

[Yaldabaoth]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1130415032
You owe me "a million bucks". I accept paypal.

[equinox1911]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1130415032
You know me "a million bucks". I accept paypal.

Careful dosh isn't dosh ;)
Congrats, it took you 35 years, you said u had ~250% OE, mind sharing your IGs?

[Yaldabaoth]

Innovative, Exploration (~1650 changed to administrative after I had the important colonies and CNs, stole rest of colonies from other nations), Quality, Diplomatic, Defensive, Influence, Quantity

The goal was to get all the institution origins in this one.