Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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CTHOMP Aug 11, 2017 @ 5:36am
HRE emperor mechanics.
So I am now emperor of hre as Bonhemia. It is around 1464? Anyway. I've never played as emperor before and have questions regarding strategy.

I think I need to focus on retaking hre land from non hre people, first Denmark and Venice. How do I fabricate claims or go to war to return here land if I'm not be next to either? There doesn't seem to be a cb for return here land.

Burgundian inheritance hasn't form yet but I do have Royal marriage to them and higher prestige so I should be good if it does fire.

By taking provinces and/or vassalizing hre members don't the rest of them get mad at me and I run the risk of not getting reelected or worse, having them all rise up against me?

Is it better to break up and release as many princes as possible or have larger hre countries?

So far I've gotten messages to get here countries to release unlawful territory, but I have 0% chance of doing it successfully, how do I raise the chances to get provinces released, or do I need to just go to war with that prince?

Are there any good hre emperor guides out there?

Oh, I'm playing in game version 1.17 and have all dlc up to that point except mare nostrum.

Thanks for any and all advice.
Last edited by CTHOMP; Aug 11, 2017 @ 5:37am
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Baldwin Norwood Aug 11, 2017 @ 6:00am 
You have the Imperial ban agains't non-HRE members who own HRE provinces.
You have the Imperial liberation agains't HRE members owning non-cored HRE provinces/country.

You can conquer a land by Imperial ban and give back to the original owner after, but it's pointless unless it's a country.

Yes, until you revoke the Privilegium they will perceive you as a threat as long as you try to expand into HRE, whoever you are.
Also, vassalinzing electors is bad, since you lose imperial authority per month, depending on how many electors you vassalized plus you have the AE.
But with that you can be sure that you will always be selected by the vassalized elector.

Release as many as you can, as long as it doesn't piss your tiny electors.

" but I have 0% chance of doing it successfully, how do I raise the chances to get provinces released, or do I need to just go to war with that prince?"

Diplo rep + attitude towards you.
Also, if it's a big nation and have strong alliances, they usually diss you, that's why it's better to keep HRE members weak.

"Are there any good hre emperor guides out there?"

Tbh, idk, i'm also in my first "serious" HRE/Mare Nostrum run, i'm trying to improve myself.

Have a nice day.
CTHOMP Aug 11, 2017 @ 6:31am 
Thanks for the thoughts. Hopefully we will get some veteran HRE people to give us some 'experienced' feeback.

I coudnt find there the imperial ban/imperial liberation buttons are.
Shard Aug 11, 2017 @ 7:08am 
In order to get that CB you need to pass the first reform, which you need 50 imperial authority for.
CTHOMP Aug 11, 2017 @ 7:37am 
Bummer. I only generate .7. don't recall if that's yearly or monthly, either way, going to take a long time to get to 50.
paladin_66 Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:18am 
You gain 10 IA each time you get a new king from the same country in a row, and you get 1 IA from each province you add to the empire. That is the easiest way to get IA. Accumulate enough European land to be able to add them all at once to get 50 IA and make sure you have the votes to pass a reform before you do. Then, when you are sure it will pass, add provinces until you get 50, then pass it. Do not go over 50 as you lose all your IA when you pass a reform, whether it is 50 or 100. There are also missions that add 10% to IA gain. If you want to hold the HRE, it is important to have Diplo ideas and things that boost Diplo Reputation, especially because Austria will have massive Diplo Rep bonuses.
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Omniconda Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:24am 
HRE is great ive done many runs with the intent of forming the Empire or destroying it and from experiance id say the recent Patch changes make running the empire easyier
small nations will join the HRE from outside the empire and nations will add their provinces to the empire if they take land outside it both of which they never used too.
(my HRE has land out to livonia and down to Naxos atm)

Austria is usually the beginer choice for Emperor due to its strenght position and the Habsbergs Events but Bohemia is a decent second with room to expand.

As said first reform will get you CBs to retake land held by none HRE nations and if you can get Burgundy succession you reclaim alot of land and great trade from there. Land reclaimed goes to You or you can give it back to the nation who has a core, But unless your planninga huge war dont worry about those small bit early, Your gonna beat up Poland for land and you can support Sweden later an get Holstein in the peace.

vasselizing in the empire isnt to bad as its lower AE than just taking land and you will want to spread around to border other rmembers but every one you intergrate will lower opion in the short term and remove a prince, Vasseling electors isnt usually a good idea unless you need the votes but keeping them small will help alot (if an elector is killed make a new one from someone small who likes you alot Salzberg Anhalt etc)

Allying and Marriage to 3 Electors will uslly be enough to keep you in power as Bohomia is an elector and your gonna vote for yourself but be afraid to demand land back from them tho to keep them small

Keeping nations small is what you want but a few will get to big to handle over time if they have strong allies outside the empire. Break them later. But keep as many princes as you can without going to war (unless you can stomp them release an few nations)

Unlawful demands - usually HRE nations will return 1 province if asked if your strong and have good relations but will refuse a second demand or if they have stronger allies IE france
Only demand for the CB to take it back if you are going to use it as it costs IA for them to refuse.

TIps
Keep Dip rep high
Proxy war - declare on weaker allies to beak alliance chains then anull alliances or release nations in a seperate peace
Not all conquest wars mean you should take land
Force Religion to keep heritics down and destroy reformation centres if your staying catholic
You lose Emperor if you change to prodestant/reformed before the league war
Adding provinces to HRE adds 1 IA - think about exanding outside teh empire and adding it
Ruler death adds 10 IA on reelection
dont Piss off electors if your rulers Over 50
Electors only have to like you when you die
Ignore the Shadow kingdom event unless you can control the AE you can reconquest that land for the HRE later
HRE is a great place to learn and use PUs
If Empire is at peace you get .1 IA

Good Luck


Last edited by Omniconda; Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:25am
CTHOMP Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:26am 
So I need to conquor my hre members to acquire provinces which will get me to the borders so I can start adding terriory. I'm kind if stuck with Bonhemia at the monment. I guess I can take provinces from Brandenburg to push towards Denmark. And if hungry is separated from Austria somehow I could go after them of course.
Omniconda Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:31am 
Bohemia can intergrate saleseia to border Poland/tuetons and they can head into Hungry if Austria dont get the PU but running the empire isnt about mass expantion its about the diplomacy of keepin the empire strong and having strong allies outside the Empire.

If you suceed in keeping the empire together (its not easy) you get all that land for free

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1107311960
Last edited by Omniconda; Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:35am
CTHOMP Aug 11, 2017 @ 9:20am 
As Bohemia and emperor, how does Reformation work? If I become protestant as the emperor do I lose emperorship? Do I need to eliminate protestant center of Reformation if one shows up in my country?
Omniconda Aug 11, 2017 @ 9:27am 
Yes
The Emperor has to be Catholic
If Catholics lose the League War then the Emperor has to be Protestant if its a draw it can be any.
So if you switch you will no longer be Emperor.
You will only get a centre of reformation in your Land if you chose to switch to Prod/Reformed But you should try and Destroy any that appear within or near the Empire if possible as heritic princes will lower your IA and to many will make it a negitive.

to destroy a reformation center go to war with the nation that has it and force them to convert back to catholic in the peace do the same for any that convert but dont have a centre also.
If the country is to big to force convert take the province in teh peace an convert it yourself
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