Venice - Republic or Monarchy

[BlitzNexus]

Never really done a venice game. I figured they would be a good pick for trying to form the roman empire simply due to geography. Anyways, simple question, do I stay as a republic or try to flip to a monarchy?

[erneiz]

If you want to reform the Roman Empire, you need to get out of the Merchant Republic. You get penalized for having more than 20 provinces in states.

[Exarch_Alpha]

They are the most fun republic besides Novgorod. Do what the game "tells" you to do and go Plutocracy and Influence and reform your government. Pluto is a bit meh but has some goodies like more morale. Play tall in north Italy and Naples (get Tirol too if you can - seriously, ♥♥♥♥ Austria and get France as ally) and leave poor areas like Bosnia, or mameluke Suez land (if you want to go Exploration ad reach Asia fast) as territories

It is viable to go monarchy. It´s just... lame to do so. 95% (or more, you get the idea) of nations don´t have the mechanics and events that republics do, then why the ♥♥♥♥ you would want to go monarchy? Specially since it´s only viable if you do very early to have REAL chance of getting personal unions. By 1650... it´s stupid.

[BlitzNexus]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

They are the most fun republic besides Novgorod. Do what the game "tells" you to do and go Plutocracy and Influence and reform your government. Pluto is a bit meh but has some goodies like more morale. Play tall in north Italy and Naples (get Tirol too if you can - seriously, ♥♥♥♥ Austria and get France as ally) and leave poor areas like Bosnia, or mameluke Suez land (if you want to go Exploration ad reach Asia fast) as territories

It is viable to go monarchy. It´s just... lame to do so. 95% (or more, you get the idea) of nations don´t have the mechanics and events that republics do, then why the ♥♥♥♥ you would want to go monarchy? Specially since it´s only viable if you do very early to have REAL chance of getting personal unions. By 1650... it´s stupid.

Austria will be easy to ♥♥♥♥, Saxony is emperor xd I have poland and france as allies.

I'm playing a bit more wide this game. I vassalized byzantium and I plan to feed them their cores and i've taken romagna, urbino and avignon from the pope. Also Naples got independant.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Looks good then. Just be sure to switch to another republic type and you are good to go, forget about merchant republic the whole game, it´s not viable. Lots of achievements paths if you got some mameluke land, like taking India and the 3 trade centers (Hormuz etc)

[Fantastic Fwoosh]

If you join the HRE, you cannot run for emperor (alternatively vassalise 3 or more electors) unless you are a monarchy, so after the shadow kingdom or general conquering of the balkans etc, you could go for HRE emperor.