releasing a nation within hre

[ParanoidTemplar]

hello.

- i am denmark
- fighting together with my ally austria (emperor)
- against burgundy
- and its ally brandenburg (which is member of hre)

what happens if i release mecklenburg as a nation in a separate peace treaty from brandenburg?
- will mecklenburg be member of hre
- do i have enough positive opinion to ally and annex them
?

thanks a lot.

[Black_Rat]

Membership in the HRE is determined by your capital. So if their capital province is in the HRE they are in the HRE. This means you will take the -25 relations penalty when you annex them. (But this is not AE so you have a lot less to worry about then when you take it in war).

[ParanoidTemplar]

sorry, maybe i was not clear enough:
i want to release the nation of mecklenburg and then make a alliance and later vassalize them.
is this possible or will they always refuse because they are member of the hre?

[Conman Legend]

It will be a lot harder if they are member of the HRE but not impossible. You'd likely be better off vassalizing the one you are at war with then annexing them in about 50 years time, way easier if they are a monarchy.

[Fantastic Fwoosh]

There are two ways, both require you owning the land mecklenburg is on however and mecklenburg having a core on that province that is not expired.

> In your 'own' diplomacy screen, release a vassal, it should be the bottomost option, you'll have the option to release them & to play as them (which is compatible with ironman)

> Beneath autonomy, there should (i am not sure of DLC requirements but may require "Art of War" or "Common Sense") be a button to release their core land at a cost of -10 prestiege. This is a effective tool for releasing nations in small chunks

As austria for instance you could for 20 prestiege, release Tirol (the gold province) independently so you aren't getting inflation (if you dont want to vassalise) and also release stygia. As long as the land is in the HRE, countries you take that are releasable will join

> Taking pressburg (on the border with austria in hungarian land), territorial coring & adding to the HRE will let you release Nitra into the HRE (since you only own 1 province you can still release as a vassal to become a eastern tech march with nitra ideas), same with Croatia if you take the baltic coast & release croatia into the HRE as a opm inland.