How to increase colonial range?

[Colonel Armfeldt]

I am playing as France, and I discovered the Caribbean in 1470, however, short colonial range meant that I could not send colonists. I resolved to colonise Africa instead, but the Gran Coast was to far, in fact, even Senegal (or whatever it is) was to far away. I know fleet basing rights will not help, and that I can not go to war with Portugal becuase they are allied with Castille (my ally), which will join the war. I tried playing as Portugal and selling the province, but it said it was to far away for coring. Now how do I increase my colonial range? I have played in the year 1691 as France and could colonise the New World and even India, so I am assuming technolgy has something to do with it. Any help?

EDIT: By 'the province' I mean the Azores.

[Yxklyx]

Technology. There's a Diplo advisor but he's never around when you need him. Also, some ideas. That's it as far as I can recall.

Also, the way coring works is very weird. You can always core a province adjacent to a vassal regardless of distance. So, if you attack without a CB one of the African nations and vassalize them, then attack a neighbor you can core that province and extend range that way. Personally. I always use a CB to keep things more challenging.

[Black_Rat]

Originally posted by Yxklyx:

Technology. There's a Diplo advisor but he's never around when you need him. Also, some ideas. That's it as far as I can recall.

Also, the way coring works is very weird. You can always core a province adjacent to a vassal regardless of distance. So, if you attack without a CB one of the African nations and vassalize them, then attack a neighbor you can core that province and extend range that way. Personally. I always use a CB to keep things more challenging.

tmk they changed this so coreing next to subjects only works if they are on the same continent.

[Colonel Armfeldt]

Originally posted by Yxklyx:

Technology. There's a Diplo advisor but he's never around when you need him. Also, some ideas. That's it as far as I can recall.

Also, the way coring works is very weird. You can always core a province adjacent to a vassal regardless of distance. So, if you attack without a CB one of the African nations and vassalize them, then attack a neighbor you can core that province and extend range that way. Personally. I always use a CB to keep things more challenging.

Okay but what techs and idea exactly?

[Briar]

Originally posted by Black_Rat:

tmk they changed this so coreing next to subjects only works if they are on the same continent.

It's even worse that that. I figured out during my byzantium playthrough that if you vassal a HRE minor in the middle of the HRE you can't annex them anymore because of coring distance. >_<

[Colonel Armfeldt]

Originally posted by BriarMoss:

Originally posted by Black_Rat:

tmk they changed this so coreing next to subjects only works if they are on the same continent.

It's even worse that that. I figured out during my byzantium playthrough that if you vassal a HRE minor in the middle of the HRE you can't annex them anymore because of coring distance. >_<

Yeah same, as Burgandy I was unable to core the Azores and Ifni because of range. I know Ifni is in Africa and the Azores in the middle of nowhere, but when I took Neva, same thing happend.

[Colonel Armfeldt]

Okay, I have just found that it is imposible to colonise until the year 1600 when tech is good. I can not conquer any provinces that will extend my colonial range, fleet basing rights will extend colonial range and nothing can be done, so good for all that I invested in colonial technology. What really pisses me off is the fact that that Spain and England have three times my colonial range, and there are English in Panama and Mexico, as well as Spanish in Peru. The distance from Tunis (my nearest province to Africa) is definatly closer to Senegal then Canary Islands are to Peru. The AI cheats, and cheats and cheats. So annoying. There should be a path to fix this nonesense.

[Panzashrank]

its true that ai cheats but not on colonial range... and in fact : to colonize as france isnt that hard.. just get explorer group 3rd idea and diplo tech 7 and you should be fine colonizing guinea coast and then south america and so on

[Yargo]

The AI gets a 25% bonus to colonial range, so they are cheating on that as well...

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Colonization#Colonial_range

[Colonel Armfeldt]

Originally posted by Panzashrank:

its true that ai cheats but not on colonial range... and in fact : to colonize as france isnt that hard.. just get explorer group 3rd idea and diplo tech 7 and you should be fine colonizing guinea coast and then south america and so on

I mean, I know it is possilble, but it ever so slightly irratating watching as the New World falls to England, Spain and Portugal, while my 80,000 strong army can not be funded well enough for war. I need the colonies for money, basically. My game says I will get enough diplomatic power too reach the Grain Coast by 1540, which is just plain ridiculous. I really hope Paradox fixes this, becuase there was a reason why Spain (Castille/Aragon) reached the Americas in 1492 ( I can not as Castille either).

[Black_Rat]

Originally posted by itisazaan:

Originally posted by Panzashrank:

its true that ai cheats but not on colonial range... and in fact : to colonize as france isnt that hard.. just get explorer group 3rd idea and diplo tech 7 and you should be fine colonizing guinea coast and then south america and so on

I mean, I know it is possilble, but it ever so slightly irratating watching as the New World falls to England, Spain and Portugal, while my 80,000 strong army can not be funded well enough for war. I need the colonies for money, basically. My game says I will get enough diplomatic power too reach the Grain Coast by 1540, which is just plain ridiculous. I really hope Paradox fixes this, becuase there was a reason why Spain (Castille/Aragon) reached the Americas in 1492 ( I can not as Castille either).

If you cant reach the americas with spain by 1492 ur doing something very wrong.

[Colonel Armfeldt]

Originally posted by Black_Rat:

Originally posted by itisazaan:

I mean, I know it is possilble, but it ever so slightly irratating watching as the New World falls to England, Spain and Portugal, while my 80,000 strong army can not be funded well enough for war. I need the colonies for money, basically. My game says I will get enough diplomatic power too reach the Grain Coast by 1540, which is just plain ridiculous. I really hope Paradox fixes this, becuase there was a reason why Spain (Castille/Aragon) reached the Americas in 1492 ( I can not as Castille either).

If you cant reach the americas with spain by 1492 ur doing something very wrong.

Oh my bad, what I actually meant was that only Spain and Portugal can reach the Americas by 1492.

[barkingamer]

What did was by taking the exploration idea and pouring diplo points into rushing exploration idea 4(did this as my monarch was really good in dip, 6 per month) and rushing for diplomacy tech 9 so I had 250 colonial range x 150% which is 375

[Halfinger]

I played as England and got a colony going in late 1400's. I strongly suspect there is a tech you are missing. Also I think I colonised Bermuda (or an island around that area) which gave me the port I needed for the Americas.

[Yxklyx]

Originally posted by Black_Rat:

Originally posted by Yxklyx:

Technology. There's a Diplo advisor but he's never around when you need him. Also, some ideas. That's it as far as I can recall.

Also, the way coring works is very weird. You can always core a province adjacent to a vassal regardless of distance. So, if you attack without a CB one of the African nations and vassalize them, then attack a neighbor you can core that province and extend range that way. Personally. I always use a CB to keep things more challenging.

tmk they changed this so coreing next to subjects only works if they are on the same continent.

As Mali, I was able to core next to a Colonial Nation in South America.

[Black_Rat]

Originally posted by Yxklyx:

Originally posted by Black_Rat:

tmk they changed this so coreing next to subjects only works if they are on the same continent.

As Mali, I was able to core next to a Colonial Nation in South America.

Colonial areas dont count because as soon as you have enough cores in that area you will lose them all and they will become a colonial nation.