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Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 6:30
Which DLC are worth it?
I get that a lot of DLCs are just cosmetics (Unit Packs), music and ebooks.
I can totally live without those.
What I care about is gameplay and content, from what I gathered from the store page, I found out these to be valid for this:
Mare Nostrum
The Cossacks
Common Sense
El Dorado
Art of War
Conquest Paradise
Wealth of Nations
Res Publica
American Dream
Rights of Man
The Purple Phoenix Expansion (Part of the Pre-order Pack)

Anyone can point out which are worth it?
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Rabob 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:28 
Buy the collection edition, that is cheaper than the seperate dlc before Art of War.
Furthermore Common Sense is essential and I consider Art of War essential as well.

Mare Nostrum you can skip. It mostly works against you anyway (trade leagues if you need to conquer Venice as Austria, mercenary armies against you in wars and muslims raiding you)
If you however plan to play a custom nation in the Americas. Having "raid coast" as idea is pretty OP early.

Cossacks would be the other one I would skip. Estates are more gamey than anything else. It's mostly press button to get free monarch points every 20 years and add some provinces before they turn unhappy. Furthermore this DLC introduced the whole favor system. Which I personally don't really like.

El Dorado gives the custom nation designer which is a nice extra imo. Furthermore it had some events and the inti/nahuatl/mayan mechanics. So it depends more on whether or not you will use custom nations and play there.

Rights of man pretty much adds some CK2 mechanics to EU4. If you like playing Ethiopia this is pretty much a must have. Since it buffs coptic and your early ruler gets missionairy strength
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:34 
引用自 Rabob
Buy the collection edition, that is cheaper than the seperate dlc before Art of War.

Wtf? The noncosmetic DLCs that are inside the collection edition are worth 35€, even if I didn't have the game (which I do) with it it would cost me 75€ to buy them separatedly, how is it more worth it, when the collection edition is 93€???
Rabob 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 Melichor
引用自 Rabob
Buy the collection edition, that is cheaper than the seperate dlc before Art of War.

Wtf? The noncosmetic DLCs that are inside the collection edition are worth 35€, even if I didn't have the game (which I do) with it it would cost me 75€ to buy them separatedly, how is it more worth it, when the collection edition is 93€???

You can get the DLC collection for about 10 euro. So normally the DLC would be -75% 8,75 euro. So you would pay like 1,25 extra. (I assume you included the preorder pack in the price as well right?). For that price you might as well get the cosmetics included as well.
最后由 Rabob 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:47
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Rabob
引用自 Melichor

Wtf? The noncosmetic DLCs that are inside the collection edition are worth 35€, even if I didn't have the game (which I do) with it it would cost me 75€ to buy them separatedly, how is it more worth it, when the collection edition is 93€???

You can get the DLC collection for about 10 euro. So normally the DLC would be -75% 8,75 euro. So you would pay like 1,25 extra. (I assume you included the preorder pack in the price as well right?)
Where exactly is the DLC collection? I don't see it anywhere. Also I calculated the DLCs in Collection edition only
Rabob 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:54 
引用自 Melichor
引用自 Rabob

You can get the DLC collection for about 10 euro. So normally the DLC would be -75% 8,75 euro. So you would pay like 1,25 extra. (I assume you included the preorder pack in the price as well right?)
Where exactly is the DLC collection? I don't see it anywhere. Also I calculated the DLCs in Collection edition only

You can get it outside of steam with the gray key resellers. I cannot list the names here because steam policy forbids it and censors it.
最后由 Rabob 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:54
equinox1911 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:56 
Yeah you can do that and get stolen keys that don't give anything to the people making the game or you can get the two most usefull dlc: AoW and CS and then when you learn the game get the ones according to what nation or region you want to play in.
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 7:59 
引用自 Rabob
引用自 Melichor
Where exactly is the DLC collection? I don't see it anywhere. Also I calculated the DLCs in Collection edition only

You can get it outside of steam with the gray key resellers. I cannot list the names here because steam policy forbids it and censors it.


引用自 equinox1911
Yeah you can do that and get stolen keys that don't give anything to the people making the game or you can get the two most usefull dlc: AoW and CS and then when you learn the game get the ones according to what nation or region you want to play in.

I also don't want to support stores like that arctic creature or that letter, numeric, letter

But I found it in an official Paradox Interactive store, which somehow has a sale right now o.O
However it's still quite a lot of money for just DLCs
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:05 
If I want to buy every functional DLC except for Rights of man (which is kinda new and not a big discount), and Mare Nostrum, it would cost me 38.75€, not sure :-/
Rabob 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:09 
引用自 equinox1911
Yeah you can do that and get stolen keys that don't give anything to the people making the game or you can get the two most usefull dlc: AoW and CS and then when you learn the game get the ones according to what nation or region you want to play in.

I never had problems with it and I have used for over 2 years now. And the money still goes to Paradox. The keys have to be bought after all.

On the Paradox store it's 15 euro now for the DLC collection. Which is a fair price as well for the content. I don't think the discount was ever greater than 75% as well. So you can either buy some for 75% and wait or simply buy the ones you want now.
最后由 Rabob 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:10
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:12 
引用自 Rabob
引用自 equinox1911
Yeah you can do that and get stolen keys that don't give anything to the people making the game or you can get the two most usefull dlc: AoW and CS and then when you learn the game get the ones according to what nation or region you want to play in.

I never had problems with it and I have used for over 2 years now. And the money still goes to Paradox. The keys have to be bought after all.

Well there has been issues ;) Ubisoft pulled some already sold and activated keys from letter numeric letter.

Also, no, that money doesn't necessarely go to Paradox, as these keys may be illegal (bought with illegal credit cards, which were declined later, but the keys are out there). Not sure how EXACTLY it works, but I just know it works.
equinox1911 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:14 
40 bucks for 8 expansions seems like a really good deal to me, i wouldn't even bet that you could get it any cheaper at steam sales. You rarely if ever see eu iv dlc go for less than €4.99 on sales.
Just took a lok at the sale and i would say it's worth it to get all if you can afford it and know you like eu iv, else i would still advise to get AoW and CS only and take a look at the next big steam sale. ~75% off is still a pretty good deal.
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:16 
引用自 equinox1911
40 bucks for 8 expansions seems like a really good deal to me, i wouldn't even bet that you could get it any cheaper at steam sales. You rarely if ever see eu iv dlc go for less than €4.99 on sales.
Just took a lok at the sale and i would say it's worth it to get all if you can afford it and know you like eu iv, else i would still advise to get AoW and CS only and take a look at the next big steam sale. ~75% off is still a pretty good deal.
Well I loved EU3, and want to get into EU4, and found that I own it, so I'm trying to look up the DLC, as they add mechanics, and I don't want to relearn the game multiple times
equinox1911 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:20 
引用自 Rabob
The keys have to be bought after all.

This is simply not true, you have no way of knowing these keys are not bought with stolen credit cards (which usually get charged back and the publisher has to choose to deactivate the key). The fact is that only big publishers afford the monetary and PR prize involved in voiding stolen keys.

And that is on top of the fact that you give money to a grey market that takes advantage of how digital distribution works our days and do not provide any service themselves.
Steam gets a cut because they run the freaking service and the dev/publisher because he payed for the product. What exactly do keyresellers provide other than a chance to distribute stolen keys?
equinox1911 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 8:26 
引用自 Melichor
Well I loved EU3, and want to get into EU4, and found that I own it, so I'm trying to look up the DLC, as they add mechanics, and I don't want to relearn the game multiple times


Sounds like you know what you are getting in to, depending on what you payed for eu 4 a max of like 80 bucks to be up to date seems to be a reasonable cost.
But even if you get only the two dlc i recommended you won't have to relearn anything.
The current pds model for their dlc and free content updates makes this not relevant as long as you keep playing on the newest version.

Every (or 3 out of 4) version patches come with payed dlc that unlock certain features in the game or add flavour to certain countries but every version is also a free content update.

You can take a look at http://www.eu4wiki.com/Patch_1.18
which was the last patch with dlc and see how dlc vs free content is structured.
Melichor 2017 年 1 月 19 日 上午 9:01 
引用自 equinox1911
引用自 Melichor
Well I loved EU3, and want to get into EU4, and found that I own it, so I'm trying to look up the DLC, as they add mechanics, and I don't want to relearn the game multiple times


Sounds like you know what you are getting in to, depending on what you payed for eu 4 a max of like 80 bucks to be up to date seems to be a reasonable cost.
But even if you get only the two dlc i recommended you won't have to relearn anything.
The current pds model for their dlc and free content updates makes this not relevant as long as you keep playing on the newest version.

Every (or 3 out of 4) version patches come with payed dlc that unlock certain features in the game or add flavour to certain countries but every version is also a free content update.

You can take a look at http://www.eu4wiki.com/Patch_1.18
which was the last patch with dlc and see how dlc vs free content is structured.

Well, bought the DLCs for 40€, now it's time to enjoy them
Thanks anyway
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