Why Scotland always lose to England?

[Tasty Bunny]

I mean, of course it may be not always but at least three game of mine and
two of my friend all goes through same step so I wonder what's the reason behind this.

It's really strange. I'm always playing as French at first scenario, and England always find
it's way out to meddling with my war of expansion.
So they always send their 'Royal Army' to ally with my enemy and usually
none of those who landed on continent never see their land again.

So I'm constantly draining their force. Usually soon after that happen,
Scotland find out it's about time to attack England, seems pretty logical and normal decision.



First, they got some of initial success. Obtain Two or three land.

Second, at this point I think like,
'meh. Looks like now they don't need my guaranting. Let's use diplo slot elsewhere'

And lastly, about one or two decade later, England go offensive to Scotland,
and usually take back all lost province.

Apprently even the Scotland + half of Ireland doesn't match to England.

I'm really don't understand this phenomenon. What's the reason of this?

[tonypa]

Because Scotland and Ireland are poor, England has some very rich provinces which means more money and more tech and eventually better and larger armies.

[La Comte de Frou Frou]

kinda like real life...

[Ficelle]

Also, England is a lucky nation, Scotland is not.

Even without that, England is in a way better starting position with richer lands and more of everything.

[conjurerdragon]

Because England has reserves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNVEYO4BNKQ

[of Anwyl]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

Also, England is a lucky nation, Scotland is not.

Even without that, England is in a way better starting position with richer lands and more of everything.

Plus their first king is 0/0/0 so after he dies they are of course going to be way stronger.

[Mikey]

England has a lot of high value provinces coupled with a large manpower pool initially, both something Scotland does not have.
Even if you drain out all their manpower they will start churning out mercs instead, they cost money and will leave England indebted however Scotland still cannot hope to match England 1v1.
For Scotland to really beat England YOU as France will have to attack them together with Scotland and force them to hand over Northumbria to the Highlanders while securing your own footing on the continent as well. After that Scotland will be in a much improved position for the 2nd war on England.

[chazla20]

France needs to protect Scotland if you want them to survive. Historically France had troops in Scotland until 1560 or so. I know EUIV doesn't follow the historic path as the game progresses but Scotland needs a hand against a stronger England for a 100+ yers or so.

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by conjurerdragon:

Because England has reserves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNVEYO4BNKQ

Scotland actually won the next battle (and independence) because the cavalry wasn't stupid enough to fight and die in a lost battle here.

[conjurerdragon]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by conjurerdragon:

Because England has reserves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNVEYO4BNKQ

Scotland actually won the next battle (and independence) because the cavalry wasn't stupid enough to fight and die in a lost battle here.

Sure but I just love the scene where Longshanks orders his archers to fire into the melee (despite being notified that they will hit his own men too) because "we got reserves". And while Scotland occasionally won some battles (e.g. by using Schiltrons against the normally overwhelming english cavalry) in general they always were short on manpower, resources and everything compared in a 1:1 of England vs. Scotland. Only with the Auld Alliance with France could Scotland defend it’s independance for so long.

[shark8210]

If you play as Frech, you have to wipe out England to be a truly stong country. Scotland must not die, if you want swallow whole England. Put army on Scotland to attack English mainland, force England release countries and vassalize them. Now you have a best base for avoiding ship war.

[Pozz]

In my Korea game I was wondering about the lack of British presence in the new world. Shortly after spotting the English in Wales with my explorer the message "Scotland has formed Great Britain" popped up...

It was a glorious day!